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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    if they want the challenge they can run it on their 30
    but you cant tell them they arent allowed to make it easier by doing it on their 50

    every player has the right to play the dungeon how they want according to the rules of the dungeon, not the "opinions" of what other players are going to want to do

    much like leve failing
    or grade 10 fishing
    It's these rules that we're bitching about. This 25 dungeon will be obsolete as fast as the NMs they added in the last major patch. Game doesn't need content that becomes obsolete within a week because the developers can't create new content fast enough. After a week you're back to leve grinding and boredom. Hopefully they get things right with the 50 dungeon, I don't know how many people will sit around waiting more months with nothing to do for the next content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    It's these rules that we're bitching about. This 25 dungeon will be obsolete as fast as the NMs they added in the last major patch. Game doesn't need content that becomes obsolete within a week because the developers can't create new content fast enough. After a week you're back to leve grinding and boredom. Hopefully they get things right with the 50 dungeon, I don't know how many people will sit around waiting more months with nothing to do for the next content.
    They are improving the game for EVERYONE. Not just r50s. Mid level NMS and the mid level Dungeon are designed for MID LEVEL PLAYERS who will either return to the game after the patch, or join the game at PS3 launch. They are trying to learn from their mistakes like the first time we all leveled to r50 with NO content, and adding content for FUTURE players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    They are improving the game for EVERYONE. Not just r50s. Mid level NMS and the mid level Dungeon are designed for MID LEVEL PLAYERS who will either return to the game after the patch, or join the game at PS3 launch. They are trying to learn from their mistakes like the first time we all leveled to r50 with NO content, and adding content for FUTURE players.
    But how does capping a Lv.30 dungeon to Lv.30's hurt the mid content players if mid content is so important? They will be doing the dungeon at the MID level. What it adds to the game is a challenge for EVERYONE not just the mid level players. It adds two facets of content really.

    The entitlement of this community to have everything spoon fed to them is astonishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    But how does capping a Lv.30 dungeon to Lv.30's hurt the mid content players if mid content is so important? They will be doing the dungeon at the MID level. What it adds to the game is a challenge for EVERYONE not just the mid level players. It adds two facets of content really.

    The entitlement of this community to have everything spoon fed to them is astonishing.
    lol, entitlement has nothing to do with it. I'm not going to be forced to play a r30 dungeon when I could care less about mid-level content. So by your definition, they would be shooting themselves in the foot by excluding players who DON'T want to relive their days as a r30. Its pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    lol, entitlement has nothing to do with it. I'm not going to be forced to play a r30 dungeon when I could care less about mid-level content. So by your definition, they would be shooting themselves in the foot by excluding players who DON'T want to relive their days as a r30. Its pointless.
    Who is forcing you into the dungeon? If you don't care about Mid content than don't DO mid content. How ignorant are you? For the people that WANT to do mid content and not steamroll through it we are pretty much SOL. For the people who already have capped DoM/DoW they are FORCED into doing at R.50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Who is forcing you into the dungeon? If you don't care about Mid content than don't DO mid content. How ignorant are you? For the people that WANT to do mid content and not steamroll through it we are pretty much SOL. For the people who already have capped DoM/DoW they are FORCED into doing at R.50.
    Exactly, which means the new content is going to go unused by half the population if capped. How ignorant are you? For the people that WANT to do mid level content for the CHALLENGE, CAN RUN IT AS A r30! Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Exactly, which means the new content is going to go unused by half the population if capped. How ignorant are you? For the people that WANT to do mid level content for the CHALLENGE, CAN RUN IT AS A r30! Problem solved.
    I'm all 50 DoM/DoW .. LEVEL CAP ME PLEASE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Exactly, which means the new content is going to go unused by half the population if capped. How ignorant are you? For the people that WANT to do mid level content for the CHALLENGE, CAN RUN IT AS A r30! Problem solved.
    do you not understand what a capped dungeon means? It doesn't mean I cant enter at Lv.50 it means that if I try to enter at Lv.50 that I will be scaled down to Lv.30... And to the people who don't have anymore Lv.30's? They are going to steamroll.

    Yes. All 500 of you who have leveled every DoM/DoW to 50 are completely out of luck. If you want to experience this content at-level, that is legitimate. You can make a new character. Or petition SE for a level sync feature that will allow you to team up with someone who still has a lower-rank class.
    So you're in favor of excluding a section of people just so you can have easy content k. On the other hand capping a dungeon @ 30 does not hurt anyone and keeps the challenge alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Exactly, which means the new content is going to go unused by half the population if capped.
    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    lvl 50 players who don't need the gear and don't want to run it as lvl 30 would be excluded.
    Are you under the impression that under a level cap system rank 50 players will not be able to enter a rank 30 dungeon? Because that's not what "level cap" means.

    The "level cap" we are talking about would have your rank 50 character delevel to rank 30 for the time he is in the dungeon in order to maintain game balance since the dungeon was designed to be played with rank 30 characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    But how does capping a Lv.30 dungeon to Lv.30's hurt the mid content players if mid content is so important? They will be doing the dungeon at the MID level. What it adds to the game is a challenge for EVERYONE not just the mid level players. It adds two facets of content really.

    The entitlement of this community to have everything spoon fed to them is astonishing.
    how does it help the mid content?
    the mid content players dont need a cap

    all a cap does is punish and hinder higher players and force them to be a lower level which they may not want

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