8-players group as the main core to chase content- fail

[Elim]

How many times have you tried to find a group? :/ I ask because it is easy. All you need to do is sit in MD and shout for one.

I know people who have found a static group in one shout. You might have to go through a few groups till you find one with your skill level, though.

[Thorauku]

Binding Coil of Bahamut. - these are NOT raids.

Party Finder must be lying to me the whole time.

[Illya]

I must not be familiar with the jargon the OP uses, but what the hell is a "vagoon"?

[Hayward]

Wow it makes me wonder how Dynamis groups of 50+ people got organized; and then organized with other 50+ people groups doing Dynamis as well to coordinate entry.


People are just pansies these days! :P

No, people got tired of that madness the first time around. Why do you think SE changed Dynamis (years too late for people to care, in my opinion)?

[Onyxys]

We raided 6 nights a week and always had people on standby lol... of course there were lots more raids, dkp.. and the raids were much longer....

Raid dungeon in FFarr- is CT. Raid dungeon (in my opinion) is a kind of dungeon, where mistakes of some players are not visible. You can agree, that in CT 1/3 of players can just stay and do nothing (I'm not talking about pushing buttons- it is very simple)- other 2/3 players will do all the job. And yes, in such kind of RAID you can take any player- very easy to find. But I repeat, that my 1st post was about main content dungeons, first of all high-end hard core dungeons where mistake of just one player very often means wipe. Such dungeons (and trials) are not raid dungeons (CT is a raid dungeon)- they are CONST-PARTY dungeons (I hope you all know what is const-party). All I want to say- 8-player group is too big formation for stable party- const-party. It is a biggest SE's mistake to make such big formation for const-parties to chase content

[Royze]

No, people got tired of that madness the first time around. Why do you think SE changed Dynamis (years too late for people to care, in my opinion)?

Those were some epic good times. 50+ People wiping to in Dynamis-Windy AH, Sac pulls in Dyna-Beauc... To think we will never experience any of that, ever again.... sad sad world.

[Nero]

Those were some epic good times. 50+ People wiping to in Dynamis-Windy AH, Sac pulls in Dyna-Beauc... To think we will never experience any of that, ever again.... sad sad world.

Me wants... >_< ... DIE-Namis Tav gogo

[Greed]

Oh, the typical "I came from WoW" statement. I came from Everquest and Ultima Online, deal with it!

but what he said was right.
or do you plan to ignore what he said just because he play wow?

[Jinrya-Geki]

I remember when raids spots were open world, and you could bring as many people as you wanted.

[Kelvani]

The op isn't asking for content to be dumbed down. The op is asking for the ability to form a group to do progress. Some people are casual players, they are in smaller FC's. They may have started the game POST release (GASP yes there are some who did) and therefore they might be missing out on the already formed progression groups. Saying that their opinion is not valid because you USED TO PLAY Everquest or WoW is silly. I played them too. Those games thrive on Zerg and wake up calls at 3am cause <boss is up hurry before someone else gets it (EQ1 oldschool!).

I agree that it can be difficult for a newer player or a casual player to find 8 people of the RIGHT class mix who want to focus on keeping the winnings in their group and not letting it go to a PUG.

That being said, 2.2 should help somewhat by removing the lockout from coil 1-5 and making it easier to get help if needed from a FC member or friend who has their own static group.