Instanced Raids Unveiled!

[Rentahamster]

Now, if it was for the sake of progression, then my opinion would be different.

Acquiring new gear for your mid-rank classes from the dungeon is a form of progression.

[Starlord]

Acquiring new gear for your mid-rank classes from the dungeon is a form of progression.

Character Development

[Rentahamster]

Character Development

Yes, I know he was speaking in terms of SP gain, but getting better gear is as much an integral part of the process of character development as is SP gain.

[Starlord]

Yes, I know he was speaking in terms of SP gain, but getting better gear is as much an integral part of the process of character development as is SP gain.

Yep, as long as your doing something to Making you character Stronger/cool looking/Best stat gear/sp gain however you want to make your Character improve, is Character Development, as you said doesn't mean always mean get sp to get your Character somewhere =). Besides I'm sure the monsters you kill in the Dungeons will yield sp, I'm 99% sure of that,always leave 1% in case of failure .

Also, we will be getting information on these quest hubs too as well sometime this week or early next week.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Acquiring new gear for your mid-rank classes from the dungeon is a form of progression.

Its not progression if I don't need to do it. I can level any class to 50 without ever having to run a dungeon. Heck, I could level to 50 with onion gear for all I care. The only class I am interested in progressing is my main. Everything else is just for vanity's sake.

[Rentahamster]

The only class I am interested in progressing is my main. Everything else is just for vanity's sake.

You need skills from other classes to make your main class better. Rank 50 PGL with no skills from other classes is gimp.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

You need skills from other classes to make your main class better. Rank 50 PGL with no skills from other classes is gimp.

But again, I don't need the mid-rank NM gear to make my leveling any easier. I can get 50 more efficiently if I ignore dungeons and spent all my time running leves and grinding mobs. I don't need optimal equipment for that.

IF you want to see the R25 dungeon hold true to it's ranks, what SE needs to do is give good SP in the dungeon. THEN I would be encouraged to run it at r25.

[Rentahamster]

IF you want to see the R25 dungeon hold true to it's ranks, what SE needs to do is give good SP in the dungeon. THEN I would be encouraged to run it at r25.

If they're anything like leves, then dungeons probably would be a decent source of SP. If they weren't, the high rank dungeons would be only available at rank 50, not rank 45. If you can do the end-game dungeons at rank 45, it allows you to gain SP in the process that would go towards your character's level progression.


Anyway, answer this question:

Which course of action is more satisfying to a player who wants to get new dungeon-only gear for his rank 25 Gladiator.


Option 1: Kill everything super fast as a rank 50 Marauder, then "give" (so to speak) the gear to his rank 25 class.

or

Option 2: Complete the dungeon as a rank-appropriate rank 25 Gladiator, and "earn" the gear through hard work.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

If they're anything like leves, then dungeons probably would be a decent source of SP. If they weren't, the high rank dungeons would be only available at rank 50, not rank 45. If you can do the end-game dungeons at rank 45, it allows you to gain SP in the process that would go towards your character's level progression.


Anyway, answer this question:

Which course of action is more satisfying to a player who wants to get new dungeon-only gear for his rank 25 Gladiator.


Option 1: Kill everything super fast as a rank 50 Marauder, then "give" (so to speak) the gear to his rank 25 class.

or

Option 2: Complete the dungeon as a rank-appropriate rank 25 Gladiator, and "earn" the gear through hard work.

First, this question has 2 parts. The first is why would a rank 50 MRD need rank 25 GLD gear? The second part is, it depends on what kind of player you are talking about. In my case, if I just wanted some cool looking gear for the sake of just having it, I would run it as a 50. If I was looking for a challenge and I was bored of the rank 50 dungeon, I would run it as a 25.

You may not feel the same way, but what is the point in penalizing Player A that would have just as much fun running through a dungeon designed for a level 25 on his rank 50?

[Reaux]

First, this question has 2 parts. The first is why would a rank 50 MRD need rank 25 GLD gear? The second part is, it depends on what kind of player you are talking about. In my case, if I just wanted some cool looking gear for the sake of just having it, I would run it as a 50. If I was looking for a challenge and I was bored of the rank 50 dungeon, I would run it as a 25.

You may not feel the same way, but what is the point in penalizing Player A that would have just as much fun running through a dungeon designed for a level 25 on his rank 50?

You're not being penalized. It was designed for 25 for fun/gear. You may not like it but it is their design choice for these dungeons. But, just because you cannot run it on a 50 doesn't mean you are being punished for it. As for a rank 50 MRD doing it as a 25GLD, I think the implication in Renta's post was that you were also leveling GLD as an example and that your rank 25 job you are leveling could use it.

Like keeping old gear from a job you previously leveled or got by other means and using on your lower level job that you are messing around on.