Instanced Raids Unveiled!

[Reaux]

actually the main reason they removed those caps was because they added high level monsters to the areas.

I like this reason better, lets go with that.

[Jynx]

For a reason, basically everyone was sick of those caps. Funny that some would like them back.

Yeah it was pretty rough but for the most part CoP was doable with even odd-ball group setupuds "Aside from wtf snoll" It's too bad they cut out the challenge of getting to the fights.

[Starlord]

The whole area was capped. They recently removed it though.

Only Area that was uncapped back in those days was the "Spire of Mea/Dem/Holla" which was like a meeting place to discuss battle plans before entering into the capped boss fight.

COP= Best Expansion/storyline

[Reaux]

Dungeons don't need to give any SP. I understood it in 11 because we had far more penalties for dying....but here the worst that can happen is needing to walk back to a location.

[Duelle]

Dungeons don't need to give any SP. I understood it in 11 because we had far more penalties for dying....but here the worst that can happen is needing to walk back to a location.

If they're being used as a device for character progression, they need to give SP. I'll even go to the stretch and say those quests that grant access are possibly repeatables. Which means *drumroll* leve equivalents that involve dungeons.

[Starlord]

Purpose of Time Limt:

-People won't get all the gear or whatever lies in there in a day or 2
-Encourages more playtime runs within those Dungeons
-Gives reason to keep going to that Dungeon to get that gear you always wanted thus making it more Rewarding

Without a Time Limit:

-People will bum rush the Dungeons till they completed everything in there within a day or 2
-When they finish they will complain that they have everything and want SE to pump out more Content now
-Less initiative to want to do Dungeons because it will get old without having a need to go there
-The items you get won't be nearly as rewarding if you just rush everything

Also Reguarding Grand Companies:

-These Dungeons are in Relation to the Grand Companies please do make note of that as to why there's a time limit
-In, the future whenever Grand Companies come out (probably this Summer) That 60 min time Limit may just be there for that reason too, for activities within the Dungeon itself.

[Cyan]

Hmm. I dont know. I kind of like this. It is very nyzul isle-ish in a way I suppose. I only hope that they will include a variety of different things to do, rather than it being these instanced, limited time dungeons for ever from now on like I fear it might go. In short; Looks pretty cool, stepping into the right direction!

Edit: Must get classes up 5 more levels.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

The player wants to rank up GLA and needs new gear. He can either enter the dungeon as a rank 25 GLA and play the dungeon as intended,

OR


enter the dungeon as a way higher rank class ( in this case, his main is MRD) and turning the game into easy mode.

Forcing the player to do it as a rank 25 GLA gives the player a greater sense of accomplishment and satisfaction.


You can see exactly how this played out after the introduction of the rank 30 NMs. No one fought them at rank 30, everyone just zerged them at rank 50, and within two weeks, everyone had the NM gear and no one cares about them anymore.


No one is going to intentionally run it as a lower class because the rewards are too good.


Because the rewards for completing the dungeon are too good, and deliberate restrictions are needed to maintain game balance.

These are YOUR opinions. You don't decide what I find fun and rewarding. Being FORCED to run a dungeon for gear I don't NEED to level a SUBJOB is neither fun nor rewarding for me.

[Rentahamster]

These are YOUR opinions. You don't decide what I find fun and rewarding. Being FORCED to run a dungeon for gear I don't NEED to level a SUBJOB is neither fun nor rewarding for me.

You are not concerned whatsoever that the good rewards earned by blazing through a R25 dungeon as a R50 class is not proportional at all to the little effort required? Just because in your specific case you may not think you need the items or ever plan to use them does not diminish at all the fact that the item still has potential usefulness.

level cap: put in lots of effort, get good rewards

no level cap: put in minimal effort, get good rewards.

The game needs to maintain balance.

[TheVedis]

You are not concerned whatsoever that the good rewards earned by blazing through a R25 dungeon as a R50 class is not proportional at all to the little effort required? Just because in your specific case you may not think you need the items or ever plan to use them does not diminish at all the fact that the item still has potential usefulness.

level cap: put in lots of effort, get good rewards

no level cap: put in minimal effort, get good rewards.

The game needs to maintain balance.

yes, no level cap = good rewards
that rank 30 gear is SO good for my rank 50 character

that arguement doesnt hold guys, good gear only works if you are in that range! (yes i realize we can drag others through to get them that gear, and thats the benefit of having friends)