Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Decrith]

Strength has a weighting of 1, Crit 0.184 and Determination 0.323

If you take the values you've said and multiple them by their weightings you'll see the total with Onion is higher.

2 STR + 1 Crit = 2.184
10 Determination = 3.23

^^/

Alright thanks, It seems like I mixed up the stat weights and thought 1 str = 8 det xD when it was actually 1 weapon damage = 8 str xD

@pompey
Oh I do like PvP, I just don't like going alone, which has been my problem for a while now, can't find a party who consistenly want to go.

[Viridiana]

Very simple question, probably one that might have been asked before, but how is (for the no accuracy build) the Onion Tassets better than the Hero of Maiming Belt? Wouldn't the 2 STR + 1 Crit be better than the 10 determination you get?

Pretty sure even under the old weights that would have been a close call, and the old weights undervalued Det.

[EasymodeX]

On t5 you invigorate after small dragons are dead, then on cooldown, then after snakes are dead.

On T5 I Invig about 10-12 seconds into Wyverns.

[mythicrose]

On T5 I Invig about 10-12 seconds into Wyverns.

Why? Does your group stack the Scourges almost on top of Twintania for an AoE fest?

[EasymodeX]

Not really, we just AOE the 3 wyverns until the first one dies (I think our Monk just does a single target cycle though). Doomspike spam on 3 targets is efficient. My TP will get dangerously low right around the first conflag, where Invig pops again. Then it's generally fine, just about running out when we switch to divebombs. As long as I end the wyvern segment with about 750+ TP, I should be good.

Edit: HT bfb ROT ir+ps DS dfd DS ls DS invig DS jump DS is about it. Then PH/ssd the second then third wyvern before the original HT expires. Then HT ROT into TTT spam until they drop with Mercy Stroke in there as well. After about 2-3 sets of TTT, the last two will die and I EJ over to Twin and pew pew.

In retrospect we probably should stack all 4, although that would require adaptation to avoid plummets. The RNG on liquid hells would be more dangerous too.

[Dervy]

How much skill speed are you running if you need to Invigorate so early? DS + RoT spam so early into the fight wouldn't make you run out of that much TP. Or are you just using it to compensate for the lack of TP you'll have come Phase 2?

I also take it your SCH uses Selene for the Skill Speed buffs?

[EasymodeX]

Humm, not much skill speed. I hit the Invig as soon as I drop to 440 TP. Yes, our SCH uses Selene's buff. My memory's probably off -- it may be like 15 seconds into the fight when I hit Invig. Seems like it's closer to the start, but I guess not really.

[mythicrose]

In retrospect we probably should stack all 4, although that would require adaptation to avoid plummets. The RNG on liquid hells would be more dangerous too.

My group's just not been fortunate enough to keep the scourages clumped enough me to use doomspike. I pair up with a MNK,BLM,BRD for coil but we've had no issues just single targeting the scourges down. Thanks for explaining why you use your invigorate so early.

[Nero]

Jesus.. this Thread has grown since i've last checked it and actually has a lot of new Informations in it.. Since 45 Pages seems a lot to read through, i may post my Rotation and would appreciate any advice to change things around. I've mainly tanked for the last couple month, but currently i am getting back into DRG.. so i feel rusty as hell lol. I did read a couple of the last Pages but did not find any actual dps numbers i could compare to... soo:

HT - Ir - Fr - BB - Ph - Sweep - ID - PS - DB - Jump - CT - TT - SD - VT - Ls - FT - HT - Frac - Ph - TT - VT - FT - ID - DB - CT

( After i used CD's like Ir, BB and Sweep i usually pop them as soon as they are up again between skills ).

Advices are much appreciated and also Informations about Acc regarding positions like flank etc, this is actually first time i've heard about it. x_x

[EasymodeX]

1. Drop Fracture.

2. 458acc for coil, 0 acc for non-coil.

3. Max determination on gear.

... that's pretty much it for the past 80 pages, lulz.