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  1. #91
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    Velox's Avatar
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by xAstral View Post
    Funny how people want to limit the content they play because they're afraid of "casual" people gearing up will affect what "they" do
    They call that Special Snowflake Syndrome, a common disease within the modern day MMO gaming base :P
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  2. #92
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    Roris's Avatar
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    Rori Uguu
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    It's true this is good for the player base, now everyone can just pay for a single sub fee of $13 once every 6 months ($10 for us legacy folks) and catch up to everyone who worked hard to get their gear for over those 6 long months in just a week or two and skip the wait for new content with nothing else to do. I'm really glad they consider WoW the only MMO to have ever existed and vertical progression the only way to do gear updates, my wallet thanks you very much. Other people should be glad they're looking out for our finances and stop being so entitled too.
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  3. #93
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    ColorOfSakura's Avatar
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    Aerik Tirel
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
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    Ooooor you could just stop acting like an elitist snot rag about virtual gear in a virtual online game. Don't like it, don't pay their sub fee, and don't play their game. They're not entitled to make content that caters to you or anyone else. They want the most players playing their game and having a good time, that's just good business sense. If that means that every six months they release new gear and use vertical progression, then that's what they do. Honestly, until I came to these forums, most of the players I encountered (even hardcore ones) were enjoying the game, even if the content was limited, but that's because they understood this version of the game is less than a year old.


    Absolutely no one is forcing you to pay Square Enix $10-$15 a month to play this game. There are things that people should legitimately complain about (bugs, exploits, etc.) because they affect how the game works, but whining how Square decides to dole out gear in their own MMO is not one of them. Most hardcore players are going to be running stuff with their Guilds/Free Companies and their other in-game friends anyways. The vast majority of hardcore players don't bother with Pick Up Groups, so I don't know why any of you actually *care* that much. It doesn't affect your enjoyment or playthrough of the game in the slightest. This feels like looking for stuff to complain about because openly whining about Square Enix is the in thing to do nowadays.

    I'm sorry that Square Enix isn't bowing down to kiss your boots right now, but there's nothing in the world that says they have to. And whining about it like an insufferable twit isn't going to change that fact.
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  4. #94
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    Roris's Avatar
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    Rori Uguu
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    Oh but you misunderstand me my fellow player, I am indeed glad about these events as they've just saved me some charming pocket change and indeed I can opt out of paying a sub fee for subsequent months just like you've kindly suggested, now I can spend that hard earned money on other services and sources of entertainment. I am however saddened that you've opted to use such a harming language as that is not very nice at all but I still hope you have a nice day sir *tips fedora*.
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  5. #95
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    Faedden's Avatar
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    Eddard Moore
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Coil/CT RNG not enough for you?
    Tomes allows you to gear up even if RNG screws you over every time.
    No it doesn't because they put a cap on it. Allowing you to only get 1 piece of gear a week is getting screwed over. Tome systems are horrible.

    They say its to prevent hard-cores from creating a gap from the casuals but it's doing just that. If someone misses a week or two for whatever reason they WILL ALWAYS be behind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    SE stated that there won't be RNG besides the lots on items. RNG at end game on EVERY mmo using it is just a 0.01% grind fest and is plainly boring. The actual community of mmos don't want that anymore
    It doesnt have to be 0.01% it can be a bit higher and you say the community of mmoers dont want that yet MAJORITY of everyone here is complaining about myth caps. Atleast with RNG you have something to do other than log in on Monday to cap for one piece of gear and log out.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreakinZMartin View Post
    I never ever want to see RNG in an MMO ever again, had enough of it. Being able to get tomes to work up to getting different armour/weapons is a lot better than 0.01 drop rate, coil drops are perfectly fine too, I love the way SE has gone with this and I really hope they keep this up.
    RNG+lock out is worse than a 0.01% drop rate. ._.

    Anyway my point is, it's extremely stupid to just keep having all these different tomes everytime a new tier of gear comes out. I'm assuming this game is going to go up to level 99? Think of all those token systems ._.
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    Last edited by Faedden; 02-23-2014 at 03:22 AM.

  6. #96
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faedden View Post
    RNG+lock out is worse than a 0.01% drop rate. ._.

    Anyway my point is, it's extremely stupid to just keep having all these different tomes everytime a new tier of gear comes out. I'm assuming this game is going to go up to level 99? Think of all those token systems ._.
    You never played Ragnarok online to say that.

    Sure new tomes every time will shortly fall, but nothing says it will remain like that for ever. Maybe future AF will be only upgradable from some things you get in top tier dungeons or stuff like that.. idk.
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  7. #97
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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZReport View Post
    You were never a "casual player" to begin with. True casual players log on for various reasons, most of which has nothing to do with subscribing themselves to a daily grind. Casuals derive their own enjoyment and sense of accomplishment working at their own pace within the game doing various things outside of the scope of difficult dungeon runs. That might mean logging on for a couple of hours to level up a few times, or log on to craft or farm materials. The casual player will also do difficult dungeons or battles for items, but it's not their top priority with each passing day, unlike a loot gear-oriented hardcore type of player.
    Yep, casuals get enjoyment from the game from working at their own pace. People say these changes are for the casuals. This isn't what the casuals want. A casual player that is just getting to CT doesn't want their current progres invalidated by a new patch. That is SE dictating the pace a casual may want to play at. The assumption seems to be that casuals want to be pushed to the top when for the most part they are happy with slowly progressing. I have never seen a casual player complain that they are progressing too slow, that is why they as a "casual" in the first place. Just because a player wants to take his time doesn't mean he doesn't want a challenge in the game. This is SE telling the casual players they better catch up if they want to enjoy the game at all.
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  8. #98
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    Mooserocka33's Avatar
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    Moose Rocca
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    Ninja Lv 90
    So because of this I'm guessing in coil u will be able to get more then one piece of gear a week then. Well that sucks I worked so hard to get this gear while new players will get it right away lol.
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    My discord is Moose#9971

  9. #99
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooserocka33 View Post
    So because of this I'm guessing in coil u will be able to get more then one piece of gear a week then. Well that sucks I worked so hard to get this gear while new players will get it right away lol.
    Why? How does it impact you at all? You should be getting the new gear. Who cares about the old gear and what casuals get?

    Casuals could be full myth anyway...coil unlock is better for alts than anything else, imo.
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    Last edited by ApolloGenX; 02-23-2014 at 10:05 AM.

  10. #100
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    It's true this is good for the player base, now everyone can just pay for a single sub fee of $13 once every 6 months ($10 for us legacy folks) and catch up to everyone who worked hard to get their gear for over those 6 long months in just a week or two and skip the wait for new content with nothing else to do. I'm really glad they consider WoW the only MMO to have ever existed and vertical progression the only way to do gear updates, my wallet thanks you very much. Other people should be glad they're looking out for our finances and stop being so entitled too.
    Most people who play MMOs want to do new content when its new not when its old and nerfed.
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