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    xAstral's Avatar
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    Astral Darkwalker
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Funny how people want to limit the content they play because they're afraid of "casual" people gearing up will affect what "they" do, if you run a static and have a fc none of the stuff stated above should affect you because you don't play with them. I'd like to see people clear T5 in the duty finder so the can spam for a t6 group to affect your static party oh the horror.

    First of all new people to coil will have to learn mechanics, Even in i90 gear a bad player is a bad player meaning they still will not progress no farther then they already have.

    on the topic of people unsubbing that would be a small % as the ones who do are i90 before 2.2 rush all the content and have nothing else to do, Myself I still tend to help people learn fights (within my fc) as in ex primals and walk people thru coil in chat helping to better the people I play with so I have more option to form parties in those said things that way I'm not stuck waiting for the people I normally play with to get on.
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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    wonder what the new dungeons will drop. new lv70 sets or maybe they just add darklight to the drop pool >_>
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Quote Originally Posted by chococo View Post
    I wonder how many times they can do this rinse-repeat thing until people finally get fed up.
    Gonna get old at an exponential rate.
    People have been playing WoW for 10 years and continue to do the same crap. I imagine as long as people are having a good time in this game they'll deal with vertical progression.

    At least they're making their design philosophy clear 6 months into the game rather than in FFXI when you're subjected to the shock and horror of your last 8 years of progression being invalidated over night.
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    NoRyoKu's Avatar
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    Noryoku Nory
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I'm not afraid of casual because i AM a casual and what I am afraid of is to be left behind because i don't have enough time to grind. With all the gaming hours given to me, i'm not even full 90, so the gap will only increase if they don't cap something, the casuals will be left behind because they will still have to get to 70 to be able to get to 90. But now, they have to do 70 -> 90 -> 110. The time to be able to enjoy engame for casual will increase if there is no cap to give em time to be on the same page as endgamer and have the same fun.

    Bottom line, how can casual feel sentiment of accomplishement when they have JUST reached ilvl 90 and SE says, no, no this is all for nothing, continue the grind forrrreva.... I know this is how MMO works and you gotta give those hardcore gamer some meat to chew on but give some kind of accomplishement to casual too
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    ZReport's Avatar
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    Sho Ryuuken
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    Excalibur
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    Bottom line, how can casual feel sentiment of accomplishement when they have JUST reached ilvl 90 and SE says, no, no this is all for nothing, continue the grind forrrreva.... I know this is how MMO works and you gotta give those hardcore gamer some meat to chew on but give some kind of accomplishement to casual too
    You were never a "casual player" to begin with. True casual players log on for various reasons, most of which has nothing to do with subscribing themselves to a daily grind. Casuals derive their own enjoyment and sense of accomplishment working at their own pace within the game doing various things outside of the scope of difficult dungeon runs. That might mean logging on for a couple of hours to level up a few times, or log on to craft or farm materials. The casual player will also do difficult dungeons or battles for items, but it's not their top priority with each passing day, unlike a loot gear-oriented hardcore type of player.
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    BigBossCL's Avatar
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    Habu Owe
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Exactly. I'm pretty sure the casual demographic isn't even that far past ilvl 70 yet, and if they are getting myth, its certainly not enough for a piece of gear every week.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossCL View Post
    Exactly. I'm pretty sure the casual demographic isn't even that far past ilvl 70 yet, and if they are getting myth, its certainly not enough for a piece of gear every week.
    I would say the majority of people are ilvl 90 on 1 job. If you look around say mordona you see a bunch of people with full ilvl90. With the myth change we can gear up everything to 90 if we want in 2.2.
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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ZReport View Post
    You were never a "casual player" to begin with. True casual players log on for various reasons, most of which has nothing to do with subscribing themselves to a daily grind. Casuals derive their own enjoyment and sense of accomplishment working at their own pace within the game doing various things outside of the scope of difficult dungeon runs. That might mean logging on for a couple of hours to level up a few times, or log on to craft or farm materials. The casual player will also do difficult dungeons or battles for items, but it's not their top priority with each passing day, unlike a loot gear-oriented hardcore type of player.
    Yep, casuals get enjoyment from the game from working at their own pace. People say these changes are for the casuals. This isn't what the casuals want. A casual player that is just getting to CT doesn't want their current progres invalidated by a new patch. That is SE dictating the pace a casual may want to play at. The assumption seems to be that casuals want to be pushed to the top when for the most part they are happy with slowly progressing. I have never seen a casual player complain that they are progressing too slow, that is why they as a "casual" in the first place. Just because a player wants to take his time doesn't mean he doesn't want a challenge in the game. This is SE telling the casual players they better catch up if they want to enjoy the game at all.
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    -snip-
    hardcore player: logs on, clears coil to highest turn they can do, caps myth, logs off. spends the rest of the week complaining about there is nothing to do

    casual player: logs on, does very little raid wise beyond entertainment, does the other content that hardcore refuses to look at. (unless your me, which is log on --> go to nearest bed in FC house)
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    (unless your me, which is log on --> go to nearest bed in FC house)
    And then start ERPing?
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