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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Dodge an attack? EXPLOIT! Clearly they meant for you to be hit by it or else they would not have programmed its effects and damage values into the game!
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    Lyrro's Avatar
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    Lyrro Deigon
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    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Dodge an attack? EXPLOIT! Clearly they meant for you to be hit by it or else they would not have programmed its effects and damage values into the game!
    Looks like someone's trying to up their number of posts, and I can understand that. The shinier medals above your avatar look so much nicer, but if you're going to post, at least post something worth being heard. Noone's saying being able to dodge is an exploit, in fact I pointed the opposite when I said that you were able to dodge the golem's aoe in AK's first boss fight and I wish more people in titan hm/ex knew how to dodge since I'm always a healer in those fights. Try not to make yourself look foolish while racking up that high post count.

    Feel free to ruin my "high horse", but while you're knocking me off that horse try to take into account the fact that I'm one of the people on my server who teaches people how to beat titan hard and such rather than charge them 200k-1.5mil gil. I can't help but be amused by the number of people who call people like me elitists simply because we complain about people using exploitations to skip game mechanics for a, as you've admitted, "very easy and almost fool proof" win but I'll be laughing when I see those people in a game that actually requires people to be able to think and I take solace in that. I have to admit, you're right in your definition of strategy. I tend to let myself get a little too biased in what I consider to be a strategy and forget that even the simplest of plans is still a strategy. The word exploit as well since, when used as a noun, is defined as a striking or noble feet, so the better way to word what I was trying to say earlier would be...

    If the "strategy" used to win a fight does not require any skill on the player's part to win a fight which would otherwise require skill and player competence, then it's an exploitation.

    Not trying to sound like a prude, I'm just trying to find a way to word this which would be harder to someone to misinterpret or bend to meet their own argument since those are both common trends in forums, even though I know someone will always find a way. Don't bother trying to tell me that t2 enraged or the tree method in AK require skill because I've done both and I know from experience that they do not require any skill. I will admit though that the Teratotaur one does require a very mild level of skill and competence since it does require the tank and melee dps at least to know how to get rid of the doom debuff and they still have to kill the bees. Once again, just for the fact that it's all the proof I really need for this argument, the fact that SE nerfed the Twintania enraged method is proof enough that the enraged method is an exploitation. The fact that they did not nerf it for t2 does not change the fact that they admitted it was an exploitation when used for Twintania. To say a strategy is fair in one duty but an exploitation in another is self contradicting and counterproductive. The fact that I point this out does not make me an elitist, it just makes me a realist.
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    Last edited by Lyrro; 02-19-2014 at 12:29 PM.

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    givemeraptors's Avatar
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    Felendis Vreer
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrro View Post
    Teratotaur's doom attack was meant to hit every player in the room, hence the entire room getting hit rather than just an aoe zone. When you climb atop the wall in Teratotaur's room so he cannot hit you, while you're still able to hit him, that is an exploit.
    This is not true. It is an AoE zone, it's just very large. As people stated, if you pull him all the way to the back of the room you can CLEARLY see where his range ends. It's not even a tiny sliver, there's a nice chunk your teammates can stand comfortably in if they so choose. Obviously the downside is the DPS and healer move out of range as well.
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