Current State of the Game

[SinisterJoint]

I don't agree that this game has less polish than wow, but I've always been the person who enjoys more realistic looking games and wow is just too cartoony for me. Regardless, back on topic.

This game has the potential to be something great, the problem is it's being held back by an unrealistic vision that people will stay because content is accessible to all. With MMO's this just isn't going to work. We need diversity, we need challenge, and we need content that appeals to ALL players. Not just the casual, not just the hardcore, not just the midcore. All of us, period.

The current state of end game raids while enjoyable, is just bland... oh so bland. There is no thrill to it. "Oh Hai! Dip Dodge Duck I WIN!" WHA??? I remember beating the underfoot expansion (EQ's 11th? I cant remember) Heart pounding, Sweaty palms, combat rezzing, throwing bodies at it, FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL for the win, and when that bastard finally hit the floor, it was fkn EPIC! People screaming and hollering in vent, Just pure awesome. You wont get that with ARR, and it saddens me. Yoshi P. is a veteran MMO player and I'm not sure what he is thinking. I love what he has done with the mmo, I like the feel. There just is no excitement. Since when were end game raids THAT EASY? Where is the randomness? Where is the unpredictable? Where is anything but a completely 110% scripted event with a pattern, that is easily remembered? What happened to MMO's? Too soft..

Gear progression is way too fast, weekly lockout or not, its too fast. We are supplied with ez-mode gear that is over statted for end game as it is. That should have NEVER been accessible like that. There should be no need for artificial lockouts if the content is challenging enough.

Crafting and gathering serves no purpose and that is quite shameful as well. No economy to thrive on??

I will go and say this. The generation of MMO's that started it long ago are long gone No more are the days of EQ where just exploring could get you killed. Its all pound puppies and strawberry shortcakes that are ruining the genre. We all know it to be true. It's sad, because most of these hoppers you are talking about, are people that are seeking the next game that will sink its teeth into them. Truth! We need to get back to basics with MMO's, flat out because the same old crap just isn't cutting it.

I don't mean graphical polish, I mean gameplay.

I'm gonna go ahead and "white knight" for a minute here because I grow REALLY tired of people comparing a 10 YEAR OLD GAME with like 9 XPACS to a game that hasn't even been out a year. WE ALL know ARR needs some push in the right direction, but trying to make that comparison is just flat out stupid. Sorry If I offended you, but its true. If you want to compare this to WoW, compare it to WoW when it was under a year old. I think you will find things to be VERY VERY different.

[Dazd]

I don't mean graphical polish, I mean gameplay.

[Anjian]

I just farm my 450 myth every week, or do 50 or 100 a day, then head out to World of Tanks. Lots of people in my FC don't seem to be logging on now, and Gridania increasingly becoming a ghost town. I farm the philo stones for potash, lime sulfer, animal fat and coke, but prices for these have dropped to less than one third since December (3000gil now when they used to go around 9000 to 10,000). Lately I have been thinking about ending my sub, the thought about moving on seems to be growing and gnawing in my mind.

[astrobearthe2nd]

great words.

indeed, everything you said is the absolute truth. for an MMO, there is no grind except in pvp...in a pve oriented game. all tomes gears is so easy to get these days (even before 2.1). this game cant survive in this "extremely causal" mode. it is sickenly that you can maxed out your toon by really do nothing hard. i hope 2.2 bring in so form of grind and make all tome gear to be expensive as sh**.the only reason im still playing is for my relic completion achievement and pvp (which i enjoy because amazingly it the only thing in this game that resemble a grind in this whole game)

[HeroSamson]

Its what I told someone in my FC, couple months down the road when subscriptions are lack luster its gonna be harder for new players to do dungeons because people will be farther in the game or the gear will not even be worth it and no point in getting phil or myth.

Its basically a straight course with no off turns, I seen it in FFXI also when they got far into the story its like they go by if you were not here for the start you are too late, they have fates and leves but some story lines have you doing dungeons which will halt a lot of people in the future, the weapons on primals not worth it due to something in future being better after updates which will be pointless, I even thought getting the sword for garuda when I was doing relic was pointless cause 1 more fight would of gotten my sword.

[HeroSamson]

As for the Auction house, shops give too much of the items you need and monsters drop rate is very good so why buy from Auction house, you get the gil from roulette once a day but gone instantly after a few dungeons costing you repairs up to 400 gil for 3 runs thats 1200 gone, no progression in gil.

There is no outside thing to do besides fates or leves, I like the game a lot myself but I feel trapped in a revolving door with only 3 things to do, dungeon- fate- leves thats it, you can craft but you need gil, you ain't got gil you do leves you do leves they are empty you buy 1 stack for 30k all leve gil is gone farm but items you need are across the region teleport costing gil pretty funny.

[3Jane]

I'm glad to see a good discussion. Some points I want to touch on:


2.) If we wanted to play WoW we wouldn't have purchased Final Fantasy. No need to compare the 2. There are things we love about the FF series and we loved about XI online that drove us to this game. We're not asking for a copy of other games we choose not to play.

Well put.

[Vensaval]

I haven't even completed all the dungeons and trials available. I've never capped my myth for the week. Yet, I still no longer feel compelled to log on anymore.

[Zanfire]

I haven't even completed all the dungeons and trials available. I've never capped my myth for the week. Yet, I still no longer feel compelled to log on anymore.

thats...well probably an even worse sign about the game overall...which honestly it has plenty of other issues aside from endgame.

[mero-ix]

I love this game--a lot--and have been playing it for hours every day since release. And today was the first day I logged in, stared at my character, and had no idea what to do with myself. Ended up just chatting with my FC mates. It makes me sad that I feel this way because this has been more than just some game for me. I've met such awesome people because of it. I really hope the next patch will help with the boredom for longer than the previous one did.