Current State of the Game

[SinisterJoint]

I don't agree that this game has less polish than wow, but I've always been the person who enjoys more realistic looking games and wow is just too cartoony for me. Regardless, back on topic.

This game has the potential to be something great, the problem is it's being held back by an unrealistic vision that people will stay because content is accessible to all. With MMO's this just isn't going to work. We need diversity, we need challenge, and we need content that appeals to ALL players. Not just the casual, not just the hardcore, not just the midcore. All of us, period.

The current state of end game raids while enjoyable, is just bland... oh so bland. There is no thrill to it. "Oh Hai! Dip Dodge Duck I WIN!" WHA??? I remember beating the underfoot expansion (EQ's 11th? I cant remember) Heart pounding, Sweaty palms, combat rezzing, throwing bodies at it, FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL for the win, and when that bastard finally hit the floor, it was fkn EPIC! People screaming and hollering in vent, Just pure awesome. You wont get that with ARR, and it saddens me. Yoshi P. is a veteran MMO player and I'm not sure what he is thinking. I love what he has done with the mmo, I like the feel. There just is no excitement. Since when were end game raids THAT EASY? Where is the randomness? Where is the unpredictable? Where is anything but a completely 110% scripted event with a pattern, that is easily remembered? What happened to MMO's? Too soft..

Gear progression is way too fast, weekly lockout or not, its too fast. We are supplied with ez-mode gear that is over statted for end game as it is. That should have NEVER been accessible like that. There should be no need for artificial lockouts if the content is challenging enough.

Crafting and gathering serves no purpose and that is quite shameful as well. No economy to thrive on??

I will go and say this. The generation of MMO's that started it long ago are long gone No more are the days of EQ where just exploring could get you killed. Its all pound puppies and strawberry shortcakes that are ruining the genre. We all know it to be true. It's sad, because most of these hoppers you are talking about, are people that are seeking the next game that will sink its teeth into them. Truth! We need to get back to basics with MMO's, flat out because the same old crap just isn't cutting it.

I don't mean graphical polish, I mean gameplay.

I'm gonna go ahead and "white knight" for a minute here because I grow REALLY tired of people comparing a 10 YEAR OLD GAME with like 9 XPACS to a game that hasn't even been out a year. WE ALL know ARR needs some push in the right direction, but trying to make that comparison is just flat out stupid. Sorry If I offended you, but its true. If you want to compare this to WoW, compare it to WoW when it was under a year old. I think you will find things to be VERY VERY different.

[astrobearthe2nd]

great words.

indeed, everything you said is the absolute truth. for an MMO, there is no grind except in pvp...in a pve oriented game. all tomes gears is so easy to get these days (even before 2.1). this game cant survive in this "extremely causal" mode. it is sickenly that you can maxed out your toon by really do nothing hard. i hope 2.2 bring in so form of grind and make all tome gear to be expensive as sh**.the only reason im still playing is for my relic completion achievement and pvp (which i enjoy because amazingly it the only thing in this game that resemble a grind in this whole game)

[HeroSamson]

As for the Auction house, shops give too much of the items you need and monsters drop rate is very good so why buy from Auction house, you get the gil from roulette once a day but gone instantly after a few dungeons costing you repairs up to 400 gil for 3 runs thats 1200 gone, no progression in gil.

There is no outside thing to do besides fates or leves, I like the game a lot myself but I feel trapped in a revolving door with only 3 things to do, dungeon- fate- leves thats it, you can craft but you need gil, you ain't got gil you do leves you do leves they are empty you buy 1 stack for 30k all leve gil is gone farm but items you need are across the region teleport costing gil pretty funny.

[Lamentations]

Because no one has said this, I will, this game is a f2p content build with no cash shop, and a sub fee.

[astrobearthe2nd]

Because no one has said this, I will, this game is a f2p content build with no cash shop, and a sub fee.

nobody has not said this because the sentence doesnt make any sense. a f2p mmo dont get patches this quickly or this frequent and the patches tend to focus on the the cash shop. if there is no cash shop, then is no "f2p" content. furthermore, a lot of those f2p mmo has recently been pushing out big and in game earn only content. lol i bet you felt real smart posting that nonsensical insult. this game has alot of issues ,but "f2p" content isnt even one of them.

[Lamentations]

nobody has not said this because the sentence doesnt make any sense. a f2p mmo dont get patches this quickly or this frequent and the patches tend to focus on the the cash shop. if there is no cash shop, then is no "f2p" content. furthermore, a lot of those f2p mmo has recently been pushing out big and in game earn only content. lol i bet you felt real smart posting that nonsensical insult. this game has alot of issues ,but "f2p" content isnt even one of them.

Ah I see,

In the time it took me to read this, I counted 2 point blank and 3 off the hip points to make that would dissect and destroy this entire post, I just don't want to type that much.^^

Obviously you like xiv, so do I, that doesn't mean I don't state facts when I see them.

In the 34 years I have been playing video games, one of the things I have noticed about a lot of gamers is that the truth is usually the last thing they want to hear.

I mentioned 34 years because I never played pong when it was released, that was right after I gave up pinball to enlist.

Always good to chat withya Astro^^

[Dazd]

I'm gonna go ahead and "white knight" for a minute here because I grow REALLY tired of people comparing a 10 YEAR OLD GAME with like 9 XPACS to a game that hasn't even been out a year. WE ALL know ARR needs some push in the right direction, but trying to make that comparison is just flat out stupid. Sorry If I offended you, but its true. If you want to compare this to WoW, compare it to WoW when it was under a year old. I think you will find things to be VERY VERY different.

I can compare it to WoW because SE isn't an amateur game company. They have previous experience to draw from and they had tons of people from 1.0 onward through the beta for ARR giving their opinions and they basically listened to none of it. This is how they wanted to make the game and aside from some minor changes that may come with patches it's pretty much staying the same and Yoshi has stated that several times.