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  1. #231
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    im not gonna go into spewing endless argumentative thises and thatses but i will say this

    market wards are much more limiting and require much more attention from the developers than an auction house does.
    the market wards are very similar to an auction house, but consumes more time, is more limited in space for items, and requires extra server space and hardware usage due to the crowding of large amounts of physical NPCs crammed into one area.

    adding an auction house would take time to implement and would come with its own bugs and problems, however, an auction house is easier to implement because because of the lack of having to physically build and then render anything but a UI client side.

    please give us an AH soon SE, but for now the population is easily small enough for this to not be at the top of the list. im glad were getting battle changes first.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  2. #232
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    MW was again innovation that SE failed at, good idea bad execution.

    My biggest problem with the MW system is that i have been attempting to sell my crystals for 3 days now!!!!! just to get the same message in every location:

    "There is no more space in the area"

    MW is nothing but a nuisance right now, and id like to see a basic AH just so i can sell my SH**

    @Kilta

    I don't know what your referring to in your posts about WoW AH, even during Burning Crusade (1st expansion) the AH was well done, organized, and easy to obtain what was sought after. If you referring back to vanilla WoW i never saw those problems as colorfully as you paint them.
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  3. #233
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    Fate Raines
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    i was for mw but it seems as though the system is just over all bad , because of crashing and im sure they could down grade the wards. let say go into the market ward you want to a single desk for buying the items u want from for example you go to the battle ward for sword go to desk search for the sword you want and buy one u could just set all up though the bell so retainer still has a place in the game also set up timer of how long a pc can be in ward say 45min to hour or there booted to a area in town this stop set up of a mule. that fix most thing with out having to scrap the retainers which would be a pain to try and transfer all the stuff we have on them to new system.
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    Last edited by Captaindownsyndrome; 06-17-2011 at 07:02 PM.

  4. #234
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    Kilta's pretty much just making shit up at this point. WoW's auction house has always been much better than FFXI's and FFXIV's system. The buyout prices have rarely been unreasonable and it's as regulated by the community as every other system. It does not take ANYWHERE NEAR the time to gear a character through an auction house as it doesn by having to go find every individual piece of gear one at a time (I can't believe you even suggested this), and going to a mail box to pick it up takes a fraction of the time going to every single retainer per gear piece to pick everything up.

    We could even compare it if you want, it wouldn't be hard to record the time it takes to find and equip 5 pieces of basic gear using both systems and post them.

    If anyone has fraps or something, it could really put the final nail in this god damn retarded coffin.

    Kilta must be a troll, no one's that simple.
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  5. #235
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    Rin Legacy
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    AH: Transcendent Heaven.
    MW: Zombie Hell.
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  6. #236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    AH: Transcendent Heaven.
    MW: Zombie Hell.
    Don't zombies go to heaven? D:
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  7. #237
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    Don't zombies go to heaven? D:
    Evidently they sinned mightily,
    or they wouldn't be stuffen into the wards
    to twitch, moan, and stumble
    for all eternity.
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  8. #238
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    Eldaena Vonxandria
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    A lot of the complaints I'm hearing about the market wards are how they used to be. They have improved. I haven't crashed in months. Even if a retainer you're searching for isn't in the correct ward, it's still marked. You can search for the items now, even if they don't have it so you can type it in yet. The biggest problems I'm hearing are organization, space, and time spent going to a retainer. That's really not that bad, and they are going to put more work into the market wards. With all the efforts they have put into it so for, I doubt they will get rid of it. That said, it doesn't mean a bidding system on top of it may not happen, or being able to buy items from a search menu, but that's down the line. We're all aware how this game has it's problems, and that's in every aspect of the game. However, at least the market wards work for what we 'need' them to do now. At least there is a place we can always go to buy/sell. For people that are complaining there isn't enough room, that's partially our fault. We all choose to cram our retainers into Ul'dah. But, SE has already said they plan to expand how many can fit, so soon that won't be as large an issue as well.

    I'm sorry to people who are just hung up on an AH. I'm sorry to those that get frustrated over the seconds it takes to zone and find a retainer. Honestly, I think there are way more frustrating aspects of the game and also several other aspects that have already been addressed.
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  9. #239
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    Anty Lion
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    Don't zombies go to heaven? D:
    zombies do, retainers don't only the retainers who never worked in the MW

    edit: both need to get shot in the head though... no matter what
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  10. #240
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    Wolfie Wu
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    Retainers don't go to heaven. They have no souls.
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