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    Interesting Thaumaturge fact....

    I just found out recently that a "Thaumaturge" is actually some kind of miracle working saint...
    While a conjurer is a pagan witch....

    The game kind of casts the thaums in more of a dark, shadowy, underworld kind of light (Or lack thereof), I thought it was weird....

    Conjurer seems spot on for what you would expect given the name... but thaumaturge seems off to me....
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    not really, the game essentially paints them as field workers for their respective church, which is what actual thaumaturges really were. the healers in the bible were essentially thaumaturges.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    well to be fair , ThM use his own blood for some spells (Blood rite , sacrifice....)
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    oh heck yeah the ones in the game are definitely gloomier, but only to us. you kinda have to see it through their eyes, perhaps its something standard and natural for their religion to do and so is there for not gloomy or doomy and just as sainty as painting glass.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Heres another interesting fact about the class: Its OP.

    :P

    Couldn't resist.
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    When I completed the last THM quest, I got a mixture of Buddhism and Catholicism. Catholicism from the structure of the guild and its rigidness but Buddhism on how everyone else is reliant on us for funeral rights. Much like Japan is not very religious many of them rely on Buddhist monks for funeral rights. We're also very vengeful, and we carry out rights of vengeance against people that had contracts with the guild but we won't do it against our own typically. So its a twisted world definitely, but in the THM guild world I get that they would see everything they do as right and holy. Astral/Umbral, we're the balance between light and dark, we're the grey area between good and bad.
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    Also, ff:xiv isn't the first final fantasy THM is mentioned in. The psp remake of ff:t, THM is mentioned in one of the ancient wonders, I've forgotten which one though.
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    Thaum seems darker mainly because of the contrast of Light and Darkness within the job and guild itself. Conjurere is strictly about the elementals, so a more "Balanced" philosiphy.
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    A Thaumaturge in mythology would use their own blood to heal people. Their spells would require personal sacrifice, but they weren't dark agents. They always did it to help, and not to hinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    A Thaumaturge in mythology would use their own blood to heal people. Their spells would require personal sacrifice, but they weren't dark agents. They always did it to help, and not to hinder.
    Don't forget that everything is laced with undertones of thirst for wealth and power, and that minds became twisted and warped by the notion that anything can be done as the "Will of the Greater Power". Just like real life! THM is merely a modern day messiah, proclaiming Blood Rites, performing Sacrifices, and Shadowsearing a path of destruction all in the name of God! But hey, it's just a game, right? ^_^ :P
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