Interesting Thaumaturge fact....

[Greed]

When I completed the last THM quest, I got a mixture of Buddhism and Catholicism. Catholicism from the structure of the guild and its rigidness but Buddhism on how everyone else is reliant on us for funeral rights. Much like Japan is not very religious many of them rely on Buddhist monks for funeral rights. We're also very vengeful, and we carry out rights of vengeance against people that had contracts with the guild but we won't do it against our own typically. So its a twisted world definitely, but in the THM guild world I get that they would see everything they do as right and holy. Astral/Umbral, we're the balance between light and dark, we're the grey area between good and bad.

By the way
they don't carry vengeance against their people
because they give them to people for judgment
( THM quest )

[Anty]

When I completed the last THM quest, I got a mixture of Buddhism and Catholicism. Catholicism from the structure of the guild and its rigidness but Buddhism on how everyone else is reliant on us for funeral rights. Much like Japan is not very religious many of them rely on Buddhist monks for funeral rights. We're also very vengeful, and we carry out rights of vengeance against people that had contracts with the guild but we won't do it against our own typically. So its a twisted world definitely, but in the THM guild world I get that they would see everything they do as right and holy. Astral/Umbral, we're the balance between light and dark, we're the grey area between good and bad.

i liked the thm questline a lot. and ... just because thm can survive longer then other jobs doenst mean its overpowered lol.
Please stop useing OP, a lot of classes need fixing and balancing and in the end; its not a PVP game where all classes have to be as equal as possbile. The variety of streingh and weaknesses is what makes things fun. And a good WS every 3 min isnt overpowered as many are saying lol

[Rinsui]

The variety of streingh and weaknesses is what makes things fun.

As a THM myself, I say: we are overpowered.
Show me another class that can solo the high-ranking NMs.

[Anty]

As a THM myself, I say: we are overpowered.
Show me another class that can solo the high-ranking NMs.

rdm in ff could do this as well. Its not overpowered imo. but in other situations rdm was weak, low dmg, etc. etc. and though used as healer/haster/refresher only. If you weaken the thm its a pointless job, he will be bad for solo, weak for party dmg etc. etc. Everyone who wants to solo high lvl nms can level a thm. If i wanna do massive dmg i lvl a ranger.
etc. etc... all this OP crap just makes jobs boring in the end and since we don't have pvp where this would be a massive issue, i don't see why this should be changed. If thm gets nerved he needs more immediate dmg spells not to get boring to play. a job that does absorb and buff only but is lolweak solo isnt fun imo.

[Vahzl]

OP is the most redundant phrase in gaming now. There is no PvP in this game, so who cares? (I am a THM so shhhh)

[Bigglesworth]

interesting that Conjurer's then have their guild in a dark gloomy tree cave of some sort, and thaumaturges have it in a shiny hall with roman pilars.

[Rydin]

Heres another interesting fact about the class: Its OP.
:P
Couldn't resist.

See what you started?

Also, ff:xiv isn't the first final fantasy THM is mentioned in. The psp remake of ff:t, THM is mentioned in one of the ancient wonders, I've forgotten which one though.

Thaumaturgy is also used in FFXIII

Don't forget that everything is laced with undertones of thirst for wealth and power, and that minds became twisted and warped by the notion that anything can be done as the "Will of the Greater Power". Just like real life! THM is merely a modern day messiah, proclaiming Blood Rites, performing Sacrifices, and Shadowsearing a path of destruction all in the name of God! But hey, it's just a game, right? ^_^ :P

That's pretty deep, but true... There are probably more than a few corrupt saints in history....
Also games like Assassin's Creed cast the Roman Catholic church and the Pope in a very negative light

interesting that Conjurer's then have their guild in a dark gloomy tree cave of some sort, and thaumaturges have it in a shiny hall with roman pilars.

The do worship Nad'Thal.... The deity that represents balance between light and dark, death and the living....

Also, it is true that Thaums are one of the few places that actually talked about and lives their lives by a certain deity.... Other ones of the twelve are mentioned here and there, but none hold them in as high regard as the Thaumaturge guild holds Nald'thal

[darkstarpoet1]

Heres another interesting fact about the class: Its OP.

:P

Couldn't resist.

another interesting fact. with a r50 pug, a r50 thm, and a r47 arc which do you think i take out to farm? if it is so OP you would think that it would be the thm, but it is not because in certain fights it is great, but in others it is nowhere near as good. when going out to farm mats the much better choice is either the pug or arc over the thm.

[Powercow]

another interesting fact. with a r50 pug, a r50 thm, and a r47 arc which do you think i take out to farm? if it is so OP you would think that it would be the thm, but it is not because in certain fights it is great, but in others it is nowhere near as good. when going out to farm mats the much better choice is either the pug or arc over the thm.

So if a class's power is based off how good it is at farming materials, then I suppose Miner is the most OP class.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

another interesting fact. with a r50 pug, a r50 thm, and a r47 arc which do you think i take out to farm? if it is so OP you would think that it would be the thm, but it is not because in certain fights it is great, but in others it is nowhere near as good. when going out to farm mats the much better choice is either the pug or arc over the thm.

You're doing it wrong.