Final Fantasy X-related event

[Kazahashi]

It contributes to a lack of identity because it means, like you hinted at, that the game isn't strong enough on its own merits, own characters, and own story and content without bringing in other characters and events from other games in order to keep FF fans happy. That's not people being happy with XIV as a game, that's people being happy they can get a Cloud outfit from the CloudxSephiroth FATES because they loved VII.

Again, I am not talking about things like Gold Saucer, Ultima Weapon or things like that. I'm specifically referring to the bringing in of other characters. That's all.

[Imapooonu]

It contributes to a lack of identity because it means, like you hinted at, that the game isn't strong enough on its own merits…..snip…….

I certainly did not. I said nothing even remotely close to this.

That's not people being happy with XIV as a game, that's people being happy they can get a Cloud outfit from the CloudxSephiroth FATES because they loved VII.

Again, I am not talking about things like Gold Saucer, Ultima Weapon or things like that. I'm specifically referring to the bringing in of other characters. That's all.

Again you are failing to differentiate and distinguish a notable difference. Should we get rid of chocobos? Should we get rid of Ifrit? What about moogles?

Actually, this is the only blatant use of other characters in a final fantasy game iirc. Hence, giving it’s own very unique identity if you want to get technical.

And stop twisting people’s words around man. You quoted something and said, “100% this”. Excuse me for holding you accountable to the statement you quoted. If you said “75% this”, it might be a different story.

[Ryx]

There are valid points on both sides of this argument. It's true that the game shouldn't rely on the appearances of other FF titles' characters appearing, but I think a short-term promotional event to go along with the NA release of Final Fantasy X HD on March 18th (watch, patch 2.2 will be within a week of that date) would be just fine.

I do agree with the sentiment that XIII does need the promotional assistance, where-as X HD will sell itself.

Let us not forget though: Final Fantasy Tactics had Aerith in her classic role as 'the flower girl' and Cloud's appearance as a special recruitable character. Final Fantasy Tactics is definitely strong enough of its own accord, without reliance on their appearance, yet included them anyways.

How about a FATE fighting a Dark Aeon? One of the special perks of the International version that we NAs will FINALLY be getting.

That's just my two gil on the matter.

[Imapooonu]

There are valid points on both sides of this argument. It's true that the game shouldn't rely on the appearances of other FF titles' characters appearing, but I think a short-term promotional event to go along with the NA release of Final Fantasy X HD on March 18th (watch, patch 2.2 will be within a week of that date) would be just fine.

I do agree with the sentiment that XIII does need the promotional assistance, where-as X HD will sell itself.

Let us not forget though: Final Fantasy Tactics had Aerith in her classic role as 'the flower girl' and Cloud's appearance as a special recruitable character. Final Fantasy Tactics is definitely strong enough of its own accord, without reliance on their appearance, yet included them anyways.

How about a FATE fighting a Dark Aeon? One of the special perks of the International version that we NAs will FINALLY be getting.

That's just my two gil on the matter.

Take my like. Well said.

The only thing I would add is that ARR is in no way reliant on the appearances of other characters from other games in order to progress. I know you didn't say that, I just wanted to point that out to those who are misunderstanding this concept. It's just filler, and good filler at that. It's a smart business decision.

[TeganLaron]

Again, I am not talking about things like Gold Saucer, Ultima Weapon or things like that. I'm specifically referring to the bringing in of other characters. That's all.

I personally think bringing in the Gold Saucer is surely just as big of a deal as if Cloud appeared in Eorzea. Both are creations from a universe outside of FFXIV's, yet you have a problem with one and not the other. Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

[Kazahashi]

I personally think bringing in the Gold Saucer is surely just as big of a deal as if Cloud appeared in Eorzea. Both are creations from a universe outside of FFXIV's, yet you have a problem with one and not the other. Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Nope, not at all. Gold Saucer is a casino, where it can be remade for XIV with its own look, games, etc....Cloud is a character, with a story, a background, relationships, and you played as said character for 60+ hours learning all about him. Huge difference actually.

[Tanama]

Honestly, I do not mind these fan service events. We get cool outfits, hair styles, minions, weapons, etc. from them and they give you something to do out of the norm. Why not? Cloud has made an appearance in a bunch of games that aren't FFVII. He and the rest of the cast of the Dissidia games and other Square-Enix titles are more than welcome to visit Eorzea.

[Citizen_Thom]

Please no more fan service. The games need their own identity.

Having common themes (ie Jobs, Names, Summons, ect) is fine but we need to stop having main characters from other games warp randomly into Eorzea.

I haven't seen much fan service in the game... oh wait you're not talking about that kind of fan service. Never mind.

[Kazahashi]

Tegan, you're a case of "your opinion doesn't count cause it doesn't agree with mine so I'll insult you!"

Seriously, it's kind of pathetic to act like that when someone doesn't give you a thumbs up to things you want in the game.

Selfish misers? See, insults. NOT EVERYONE HAS TO AGREE WITH YOU OR LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE. And yet, you're the only one insulting people. Brilliant!

[Mikedizzy]

I love the cross gaming content...I don't think it hurts the game one bit and the events do not last long so it should not be that big a problem. If you do not like the events you do not have to do them.