Final Fantasy X-related event

[Kazahashi]

Just because I don't want it, doesn't mean you have to be a jerk. It's called an opinion, and last I checked these were forums. When you post a topic do you really think that only the people that agree with you are going to respond? If so, then it must be nice living in your bubble of a world where no one disagrees with you. I hate to break the news to you, but I do disagree with you. As do many others I've spoken to. You make it sound like you speak for ALL the FF fans across the globe or something, and everyone is just chomping at the bit hoping we get some Cloud and Sephiroth in our game too.

There's no reason to have cross over events that bring other characters from main games into the world of Eorzea. XI and DQX events are one thing, but do we need 5 Lightning chapters? No, we don't. Gold Saucer, Ultima Weapon, that stuff is one side of fan service, the other, the one where we're going to have a bunch of KH events too and Sora outfits with keyblades, is the type of fan service I don't want. That's like if WoW had events where Zerg invaded Azeroth and you fought next to Jim Raynor to kill them! :O Oh but wait, if you do all six chapters you get space marine armor and you can carry around cans of beer on your character as vanity! No thanks.

Let the worlds be their own worlds, without random "Oh no I got teleported here from another dimension!" events occurring. They aren't even written well, and since they aren't written INTO the lore to begin with, there's absolutely no reason for them to have events like that, other then to sell more copies of the game they're trying to promote. Again, stuff like a cross over event, where you do a FATE with some monsters from another game, you get a pet that no one will use in a week, is fun, it's kinda nifty, and it's not eye rolling.....at least in my opinion.

[Imapooonu]

Just because I don't want it, doesn't mean you have to be a jerk. It's called an opinion, and last I checked these were forums. When you post a topic do you really think that only the people that agree with you are going to respond, if so, then it must be nice living in your bubble of a world where no one disagrees with you. I hate to break the news to you, but I do. As do many others I've spoken to. You make it sound like you speak for ALL the FF fans across the globe or something.

Saying "this" one hundred percent "this" is dramatic and smug.

And I said "most" not "100%".

It is ridiculous to think this isn't going to happen more, and that it's not resourceful and efficient. And you're quoting someone who said "it need it's own identity". It's not going to happen anymore than it has. Its a final fantasy game, it's going to feel like a final fantasy game, and it's what creates most of the appeal. It's not doing well because it's not a final fantasy game.

Adding nostalgic elements from previous titles only adds to the immersion for most of us, again not 100% of us.

[Kazahashi]

Saying it's "not a Final Fantasy game, add more characters from other games" doesn't make sense. VII didn't have characters from VI teleporting in, VIII didn't have Cloud fighting with Squall, etc. See what I mean here? You can make a Final Fantasy game without bringing in the roster of characters from other games. Each FF game worked because of the characters they had in that TITLE, the world they had created, etc. Not because they pulled characters from every previous game to help boost sales.

If this game NEEDS Cloud and Titus to come in and have events in order for the game to do well, then I hate to tell you, but it's already dead. On top of that, no FF MMO is going to "feel" like a single player FF game. There's no way for them to create the cast, story, and things as intricate as they do in a single player title, where you're the one playing the main character of that story, instead of one of MANY characters that work towards a goal....it's a uniquely different experience.

[Imapooonu]

Saying it's "not a Final Fantasy game, add more characters from other games" doesn't make sense.

If you’re referring to me, I have no idea what you’re talking about. I didn’t say that. If not then I still don’t know what you’re referring to.

VII didn't have characters from VI teleporting in, VIII didn't have Cloud fighting with Squall, etc. See what I mean here?

But it’s a fantasy game…it can be whatever they want it to be.

You can make a Final Fantasy game without bringing in the roster of characters from other games. Each FF game worked because of the characters they had in that TITLE, the world they had created, etc. Not because they pulled characters from every previous game to help boost sales.

You can true. You can also incorporate other elements from other extremely successful games and pull it off. And they have definitely incorporated other aspects/designs/elements from one game to another. What makes this so significantly different that it contributes to a “lack of identity”?

[Kazahashi]

It contributes to a lack of identity because it means, like you hinted at, that the game isn't strong enough on its own merits, own characters, and own story and content without bringing in other characters and events from other games in order to keep FF fans happy. That's not people being happy with XIV as a game, that's people being happy they can get a Cloud outfit from the CloudxSephiroth FATES because they loved VII.

Again, I am not talking about things like Gold Saucer, Ultima Weapon or things like that. I'm specifically referring to the bringing in of other characters. That's all.

[Imapooonu]

It contributes to a lack of identity because it means, like you hinted at, that the game isn't strong enough on its own merits…..snip…….

I certainly did not. I said nothing even remotely close to this.

That's not people being happy with XIV as a game, that's people being happy they can get a Cloud outfit from the CloudxSephiroth FATES because they loved VII.

Again, I am not talking about things like Gold Saucer, Ultima Weapon or things like that. I'm specifically referring to the bringing in of other characters. That's all.

Again you are failing to differentiate and distinguish a notable difference. Should we get rid of chocobos? Should we get rid of Ifrit? What about moogles?

Actually, this is the only blatant use of other characters in a final fantasy game iirc. Hence, giving it’s own very unique identity if you want to get technical.

And stop twisting people’s words around man. You quoted something and said, “100% this”. Excuse me for holding you accountable to the statement you quoted. If you said “75% this”, it might be a different story.

[TeganLaron]

Again, I am not talking about things like Gold Saucer, Ultima Weapon or things like that. I'm specifically referring to the bringing in of other characters. That's all.

I personally think bringing in the Gold Saucer is surely just as big of a deal as if Cloud appeared in Eorzea. Both are creations from a universe outside of FFXIV's, yet you have a problem with one and not the other. Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

[Kazahashi]

I personally think bringing in the Gold Saucer is surely just as big of a deal as if Cloud appeared in Eorzea. Both are creations from a universe outside of FFXIV's, yet you have a problem with one and not the other. Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Nope, not at all. Gold Saucer is a casino, where it can be remade for XIV with its own look, games, etc....Cloud is a character, with a story, a background, relationships, and you played as said character for 60+ hours learning all about him. Huge difference actually.

[Nici]

the other, the one where we're going to have a bunch of KH events too and Sora outfits with keyblades, is the type of fan service I don't want. That's like if WoW had events where Zerg invaded Azeroth and you fought next to Jim Raynor to kill them! :O Oh but wait, if you do all six chapters you get space marine armor and you can carry around cans of beer on your character as vanity! No thanks.

A KH event...omg that would have made a great valentines themed event!, and that WoW event...don't be surprised if some blizzard dev read your idea on the zerg and jim raynor, and is now in talks at their underground lair to bring about that event. =P

[Kazahashi]

A KH event...omg that would have made a great valentines themed event!, and that WoW event...don't be surprised if some blizzard dev read your idea on the zerg and jim raynor, and is now in talks at their underground lair to bring about that event. =P

You know, regardless if I disagree, your post just made me smile....and chuckle. Thanks :P