Garuda Extreme final phase melee question

[Asdamine]

@Skull_Angel; @Lemon8or Thank you, both are valid point. But my statement was abouy whether a melee DPS eating one Wicked Wheel is a viable strategy, by having the off tank taking Suparna, instead of Chirada.

Skull_Angel said a singular unmitugated Wicked Wheel goes no more than 4k. Lemon, in respond to my point on double Wicked Wheel, stated 6k from two WW.

In that respect, a DPS with should not die from eating one Wicked Wheel with the assistance of healer. Whereas common strategy on having main tank take chirada would force dps to take double WW thus instant death.

[Skull_Angel]

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I stated "not much more than 4k"; I can't give exacts, but in my VIT build I hover at nearly 8.6k and an unmitigated WW has taken me to slightly less than half my HP (I may not have been fully topped off).

As to whether letting melee eat WW is viable or not, it really stresses the healers. When my healers see Friction being cast you can hear the shit storm that is pre-casting shields on 2 tanks, haha; this is besides the point that it is an easily avoidable attack if you pay attention to the tell-tail sign that it will be coming (Friction being cast).

[Asdamine]

This is a silly discussion. Melee should absolutely not get hit by WW. I'll take a loss of 1000~ damage before I'll purposefully waste the healers' time.

I stated "not much more than 4k"; I can't give exacts, but in my VIT build I hover at nearly 8.6k and an unmitigated WW has taken me to slightly less than half my HP (I may not have been fully topped off).

As to whether letting melee eat WW is viable or not, it really stresses the healers. When my healers see Friction being cast you can hear the shit storm that is pre-casting shields on 2 tanks, haha; this is besides the point that it is an easily avoidable attack if you pay attention to the tell-tail sign that it will be coming (Friction being cast).

Of course it stresses the healer. Everyone has already stated that it'll be ideal for melee to dodge Wicked Wheel etc. But my method is just a no-brainer to accommodate those melee that can't dodge anything by placing melee's responsibility and spread it to the raid group and to effectively down garuda.

Most duty finder (or some PUG) groups would most likely do not contain melee that is skill enough to dodge. You can think of this as a similar method as people doing T2 enrage to get easy loot.

Whether it is the right way to play the game... that is another matter to discuss, really.

[JetBrooks]

But my method is just a no-brainer

We understand that you're defending yourself to the grave, here; but I wouldn't even call it a "no-brainer". I'd just call it a "don't do that". My DRG has like 5k hp with food and I don't think I've survived getting hit by WW.. Could just be me, but it seems like a very bad idear to get hit, not a "no-brainer good enough solution". Gotta keep in mind we get hit by slipstreams or whatever the shit else. It's not just WW damage, melee have the potential to die VERY QUICKLY in this fight.

[Lemon8or]

Skull_Angel said a singular unmitugated Wicked Wheel goes no more than 4k. Lemon, in respond to my point on double Wicked Wheel, stated 6k from two WW.

I forgot to make it clear that Adloqium and Stoneskin brings the damage double WW should have done above 6k. On a i90 PLD, that's an additional 1.5k totaling 8k damage so single WW goes 4k sounds about right. I've seen 4.2k from a single WW on my warrior without any mitigation or stoneskin/adloqium before so I doubt melee dps can "just eat one" without healer knowing to place those two skills on them and that takes GCD away from the healers so they can't be healing tanks.