Garuda Extreme final phase melee question

[Arasiel]

So when first add dies and you just have Saparana left on other side of twisters is there a way to not get Wicked Wheel in the face? It seems to trigger the moment melee go in.

[Mister-Wonderful]

Its all scripted to hit at the same time everytime. Right after slipstream, and it starts friction then cuts midcast to whicked wheel right away during tornado phase. You have to move away near the end of slipstream then come back in after. If there is limited room you can leave the tornado area and then elusive jump/shoulder tackle back in, hide in a corner if tank position is good, or foresight and pray.

[Mekhana]

There's two good ways to do this with melee:

1: The Melee stays on Chirada the whole time. Ranged dps down Suparna first then switch to Chirada once its down.
2: After Chirada dies, the off tank pulls Suparna to his corner and the tanks trade spiny.

[Arasiel]

There's two good ways to do this with melee:

1: The Melee stays on Chirada the whole time. Ranged dps down Suparna first then switch to Chirada once its down.
2: After Chirada dies, the off tank pulls Suparna to his corner and the tanks trade spiny.

I do like the #1 strat. I'll try it. Is that with two healers?

[Lemon8or]

I do like the #1 strat. I'll try it. Is that with two healers?

1 heal is fine. DPS shouldn't be taking any damage with that strategy unless they're careless.

[JetBrooks]

I like to do this: Melee LB Suparna as soon as she spawns, you should be able to do this every tornado phase. Then quickly run over to your OT who will have Chirada. Helps your RDPS down Suparna and get over to helping you on Chirada even faster.

There are seriously a million ways to do this fight =p

[Arasiel]

I like to do this: Melee LB Suparna as soon as she spawns, you should be able to do this every tornado phase. Then quickly run over to your OT who will have Chirada. Helps your RDPS down Suparna and get over to helping you on Chirada even faster.

Ooooo. I like this even better. Range DPS sits on Suparna, the one Melee LBs Suparana, then moves to Chirada. Range DPS finish Suparna then back to Chirada.

[Bardo]

It doesn't have anything to do with when melee go in.
WW is scripted to happen at the same spot in their ability rotation every time.
It's just coincidence that it "seems" like she uses it right when you go in.

So if your group wants to kill Chirada first, you just need to wait for the WW, THEN tackle/spineshatter over.
Otherwise if your group just changes it up a bit and kills Suparna first, you won't have to worry about it as long as you kill her before the WW comes up.

[Gamemako]

So when first add dies and you just have Saparana left on other side of twisters is there a way to not get Wicked Wheel in the face? It seems to trigger the moment melee go in.

Uhh... you tell the tanks to do their job. There are three main strategies.

1) Double Wicked Wheel method, the most common method. MT takes Suparna, OT takes Chirada and the Spiny. Once Chirada dies, the MT trades Suparna with the Spiny. Melee DPS will never be in range of anything capable of Wicked Wheel -- Suparna loses the ability to WW once Chirada dies. Cleanest melee DPS method with good tanks.

2) Split method, reportedly favored by the Japanese. MT takes Garuda only, OT takes Suparna, and the DPS will take Chirada and beat her senseless without a tank. Once Chirada is down, head over to Suparna, who can't WW anymore. Spiny goes to either tank, because neither moves.

3) Pure ranged method. MT takes Garuda and Chirada, OT takes Suparna. DPS slaughter Suparna from their safe spot, then switch to either Chirada or Garuda. You can ignore Chirada altogether and use tank LB to survive linked attack each sister phase. Results in quick kills, especially if you're overgeared, but technically risky as it requires tank LB and needs everyone topped off every time.

If you see anything else, then someone probably screwed up and needs to fix it. Never split DPS between sisters. It's a bad strategy which maximizes buff time on sisters and Garuda and turns the spiny swap into a total mess. This is only ever done because of incompetent tanks and is wholly pointless compared to the split method. Among those things I see people try, this is pretty much the only one which is outright wrong.

[Mister-Wonderful]

Uhh... you tell the tanks to do their job. There are three main strategies.

1) Double Wicked Wheel method, the most common method. MT takes Suparna, OT takes Chirada and the Spiny. Once Chirada dies, the MT trades Suparna with the Spiny. Melee DPS will never be in range of anything capable of Wicked Wheel -- Suparna loses the ability to WW once Chirada dies. Cleanest melee DPS method with good tanks.

2) Split method, reportedly favored by the Japanese. MT takes Garuda only, OT takes Suparna, and the DPS will take Chirada and beat her senseless without a tank. Once Chirada is down, head over to Suparna, who can't WW anymore. Spiny goes to either tank, because neither moves.

3) Pure ranged method. MT takes Garuda and Chirada, OT takes Suparna. DPS slaughter Suparna from their safe spot, then switch to either Chirada or Garuda. You can ignore Chirada altogether and use tank LB to survive linked attack each sister phase. Results in quick kills, especially if you're overgeared, but technically risky as it requires tank LB and needs everyone topped off every time.

If you see anything else at all, then someone screwed up and needs to fix it. Never split DPS between sisters. It's a bad strategy which maximizes buff time on sisters and Garuda and turns the spiny swap into a total mess. This is only ever done because of incompetent tanks and is wholly pointless compared to the split method. Among those things I see people try, this is pretty much the only one which is outright wrong.

This post sums up the whole thread.