Improve Dragoon DPS. WEAK in comparison to other DPS

[Krilox]

I made a forum account just to say:

...Wat?

[Rex]

Idk about OP....but I fight my own mob in...AK for example...and kill it faster than the tank and monk on the other mob. So.

I made a forum account just to say:

...Wat?

Yeah...

[matic]

No offense, but I think you're doing something extremely wrong.

its fine, i expected that. its hard to draw any other conclusions from the data i provided. but i really can't see what i'm doing wrong, and i have no problem being self-critical. I've been following the rotation reborn thread since the beginning and using the info there.

I use what has become the standard H IDC P TTT(etc) rotation. i weave in my off gcds. full i90 itemized towards det. I have no problems whatsoever on short conflags/snakes/any dps checks in general.


am confused.

[Krilox]

No offense, but I think you're doing something extremely wrong.

Note: if the other person parsing you is using certain parsers, then those may have a hard time cutting off or beginning the fight appropriately (because there are other players in the zone attacking mobs), so your results may be off.

No offense, but your parser is wrong. Noone is doing 380 dps sustainable.

[Krilox]

its fine, i expected that. its hard to draw any other conclusions from the data i provided. but i really can't see what i'm doing wrong, and i have no problem being self-critical. I've been following the rotation reborn thread since the beginning and using the info there.

I use what has become the standard H IDC P TTT(etc) rotation. i weave in my off gcds. full i90 itemized towards det. I have no problems whatsoever on short conflags/snakes/any dps checks in general.


am confused.

You arent doing anything wrong, people claiming they've up to 400 dps, either cant read a parser, or there's seriously something wrong with it.
Based on tons of parses (from friends, cough), in both ex primals, dummies and coil 1-5, NOONE has recorded a parse anywhere near 400...

[matic]

thanks for the reply, Krilox. I am still confused about whats going on with parsers. I certainly don't think Easymode is making shit up or trolling anyone. So this brings me back to my original theory that different parsers are reporting different numbers. i guess the next step, hypothetically ofc, would be to try out different parsers.

i do find it interesting that the sustained numbers i've been hearing (380-400) are very close to the DPS i see during my "burst phase"

[enil]

No offense, but your parser is wrong. Noone is doing 380 dps sustainable.

Even without my own experience I would trust Easy word over you. You literally walk into this thread yelling NONONO NOT POSSIBLE, Easy has a long post history of well researched/tested information and helpful advice.
I've seen 300+ dps on Titan XM (no Gaols!). I've seen 350+ on simple tank/spank fights (Ultima/T1), with Selene buff and STR pots and this is before BiS, I can realistically see someone who gets lucky with crits and a good fight timing (i.e. the fighting ending where it maximises buff timing) get over 400 dps.

[Manticzeus]

Someone has parsed me hitting 403 dps on Atmos in CT. I also regularly hit 350 on Ultima if i dont mess up and lose to much dps on bit phases.

[buckler173]

Look I should say MNK is overall a good DPS as long we maintain our overall buff and debuff, but we rely a lot on our GS which if you don't refill it will be gone quick and as a matter of a fact we have to position ourselves to increase the damage output that we do. But on the other hand DRG puts a lot of damage and doesn't need to position themselves as much as we do. I have a friend that is a DRG and i always see that he doesn't move a lot, he only moves on the moment he needs to refill his skills (Based on Titan HM fight).

It's just a matter of knowing what your doing and having a good rotation.

[Ericyu]

I totally agree. Disembowel should be a 20% pierce resist debuff and Heavy Thrust should give a buff like Greased Lightning with 15% haste as well as its current 15% damage.

That would balance Dragoons.

That would be so beast if that was to happen.