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    Quote Originally Posted by matic View Post
    i think its a different parsers giving different results issue. which is weird. but i still think its happening. i average 300 on a dummy, using allagan spear and the parser that shall not be named. burst phase, yes i hit 390, but that doesn't last long.

    Either i'm doing something extremely wrong (which i honestly doubt) or....idk, some discrepancy between different parsers.
    No offense, but I think you're doing something extremely wrong.

    Note: if the other person parsing you is using certain parsers, then those may have a hard time cutting off or beginning the fight appropriately (because there are other players in the zone attacking mobs), so your results may be off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    No offense, but I think you're doing something extremely wrong.
    its fine, i expected that. its hard to draw any other conclusions from the data i provided. but i really can't see what i'm doing wrong, and i have no problem being self-critical. I've been following the rotation reborn thread since the beginning and using the info there.

    I use what has become the standard H IDC P TTT(etc) rotation. i weave in my off gcds. full i90 itemized towards det. I have no problems whatsoever on short conflags/snakes/any dps checks in general.


    am confused.
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    Last edited by matic; 02-04-2014 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matic View Post
    its fine, i expected that. its hard to draw any other conclusions from the data i provided. but i really can't see what i'm doing wrong, and i have no problem being self-critical. I've been following the rotation reborn thread since the beginning and using the info there.

    I use what has become the standard H IDC P TTT(etc) rotation. i weave in my off gcds. full i90 itemized towards det. I have no problems whatsoever on short conflags/snakes/any dps checks in general.


    am confused.
    You arent doing anything wrong, people claiming they've up to 400 dps, either cant read a parser, or there's seriously something wrong with it.
    Based on tons of parses (from friends, cough), in both ex primals, dummies and coil 1-5, NOONE has recorded a parse anywhere near 400...
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    thanks for the reply, Krilox. I am still confused about whats going on with parsers. I certainly don't think Easymode is making shit up or trolling anyone. So this brings me back to my original theory that different parsers are reporting different numbers. i guess the next step, hypothetically ofc, would be to try out different parsers.

    i do find it interesting that the sustained numbers i've been hearing (380-400) are very close to the DPS i see during my "burst phase"
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    Quote Originally Posted by matic View Post
    I use what has become the standard H IDC P TTT(etc) rotation. i weave in my off gcds. full i90 itemized towards det. I have no problems whatsoever on short conflags/snakes/any dps checks in general.
    First, I would guess every parser don't give the same results. According to the parser itself and how it has been configurated.
    Second, may be your equipment, you may have a ilvl 90 equip but the overall stats are so-so and you're "loosing" a lot of dps. I can take myself as an exemple on that, I got ilvl 89 (missing the pants, I'm relaying on Onion pants atm) but I only got around 200-220 dps on primals, while I should be at 250-300. Why? Because I'm at 526 ACC and that means around 50 points of secondaries stats "lost" for Coil and like 100 points of secondaries stats "lost" on Primals. I didn't choose to be that high, I do with what Coil/Primals drop and it happened to be like that for the moment can't be helped, I don't decide what drop on bosses or I'd be full BiS already. The good news is that I'm prolly already ACC caped for the coming T9
    Maybe you're in a similar situation and that lower your dps somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    No offense, but I think you're doing something extremely wrong.

    Note: if the other person parsing you is using certain parsers, then those may have a hard time cutting off or beginning the fight appropriately (because there are other players in the zone attacking mobs), so your results may be off.
    No offense, but your parser is wrong. Noone is doing 380 dps sustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krilox View Post
    No offense, but your parser is wrong. Noone is doing 380 dps sustainable.
    Even without my own experience I would trust Easy word over you. You literally walk into this thread yelling NONONO NOT POSSIBLE, Easy has a long post history of well researched/tested information and helpful advice.
    I've seen 300+ dps on Titan XM (no Gaols!). I've seen 350+ on simple tank/spank fights (Ultima/T1), with Selene buff and STR pots and this is before BiS, I can realistically see someone who gets lucky with crits and a good fight timing (i.e. the fighting ending where it maximises buff timing) get over 400 dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krilox View Post
    No offense, but your parser is wrong. Noone is doing 380 dps sustainable.
    Summoners does, runnin with one that can output 400 without much problems on stationnary fights.

    But 380 on dragoon, please post a picture, or it just never happened. Without lb of course

    Edit : nvm should learn to read properly, its possible to reach 373 -on time combat-

    Im doin 367 on said fight and I'm far from beein full BiS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Summoners does, runnin with one that can output 400 without much problems on stationnary fights.

    But 380 on dragoon, please post a picture, or it just never happened. Without lb of course

    Edit : nvm should learn to read properly, its possible to reach 373 -on time combat-

    Im doin 367 on said fight and I'm far from beein full BiS.
    Keep in mind that RNG is a big factor in this game since the attack rate is relatively low. I still remember longnu's >460 dps parse over 5m where he had a 44% crit rate on AAs and >75% crit on all the major attacks.

    After doing Atomos several dozen times, my friend tells me I usually land right at 360. Now I have my i95 spear though, so hopefully that should go up.
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    hey been doing T5 bis set 481acc set havent missed on snakes or twin
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