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Thread: The Monk Temple

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Unlike the Melee Cyclas, the Melee Gaskins actually are BiS... so it would make sense to spend that myth on the pants rather than the body...

    There is currently no logical reason to buy a Melee Cyclas unless you find yourself in a position where you're really hurting for accuracy even after getting the Gaskins. Even then it's painful to watch.
    that's the situation a lot of Monks will run into once they start getting Coil drops, though. Allagan armor doesn't provide Accuracy (chest piece aside) and only the Maiming accessories will help you.

    it's the unfortunate result of all Monk accuracy being available only from 4 armor pieces for 3 slots (and 1 is a Turn 5 drop).
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    I did some testing with the Fuma chest/Melee pants and Melee chest/Allagan pants to satisfy my curiosity as well (I have no luck in the months of running Coil so I don't have a lot of BiS pieces). So in my current gear setup swapping between those two combinations my maximum DPS was almost the same. However, between different parses and with the range of DPS I'd get the Melee chest/Allagan pants were closer to the maximum I'd get more consistently. Parses generally around 4 minutes until I start to run dry on TP.

    With that being said for others I'd recommend getting the Fuma chest/Melee pants because the difference is so nominal and it'll help your pool of myth to play with unless you are just in dire need of accuracy. I'm sure there's other out there like me that have run Coil for a good long while and almost never see monk loot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    I did some testing with the Fuma chest/Melee pants and Melee chest/Allagan pants to satisfy my curiosity as well (I have no luck in the months of running Coil so I don't have a lot of BiS pieces). So in my current gear setup swapping between those two combinations my maximum DPS was almost the same. However, between different parses and with the range of DPS I'd get the Melee chest/Allagan pants were closer to the maximum I'd get more consistently. Parses generally around 4 minutes until I start to run dry on TP.

    With that being said for others I'd recommend getting the Fuma chest/Melee pants because the difference is so nominal and it'll help your pool of myth to play with unless you are just in dire need of accuracy. I'm sure there's other out there like me that have run Coil for a good long while and almost never see monk loot.
    i've been hoping every week for the visor/belt/boots to drop... none of it ever does ;_;
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsteak View Post
    i've been hoping every week for the visor/belt/boots to drop... none of it ever does ;_;
    Over 3 months with no visor drop.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I won't lie... I did at some point, too. I guess it was easy for the mind to pair it together with the Allagan Baghnakhs as being Det+Crit pieces both from Turn 5.

    It's a tough patch every MNK goes through I feel like. As one who overcame this struggle earlier than you gentlemen, I offer you both my shoulder to cry on. Let the healing begin.
    Haha, thanks Noctis.
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    Would just like to add, as an endgame raider who isn't a big number cruncher, thank you guys for all the theorycrafting and discussion surrounding our job!

    I always love to find new ways to do my job better and this thread has certainly helped with that. So keep punching away and lets remind everyone that Monk dps is best dps.
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    How about the Melee feet compared to Allagan. Previously these were identical but since have changed from Crit to Det. I have the Allagan feet, but would it be better to go Melee feet for the crit? I know Det is good for AA but crits really seem to be our best form of damage. Any info/advice on this would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    How about the Melee feet compared to Allagan. Previously these were identical but since have changed from Crit to Det. I have the Allagan feet, but would it be better to go Melee feet for the crit? I know Det is good for AA but crits really seem to be our best form of damage. Any info/advice on this would be great.
    Det >> Crit. The Allagan Sollerets vs the Melee Boots are a no brainer win for Allagan. Not only are you exchanging Crit for Det (point for point mind you) but you're doing it at the cost of Skill Speed, which is the least effective stat. It's not even a discussion that Allagan Sollerets are better
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Det >> Crit. The Allagan Sollerets vs the Melee Boots are a no brainer win for Allagan. Not only are you exchanging Crit for Det (point for point mind you) but you're doing it at the cost of Skill Speed, which is the least effective stat. It's not even a discussion that Allagan Sollerets are better

    Thanks for confirming that for me. Now if only the Allagan belt and hands would drop today..... The visor will likely never drop lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Thanks for confirming that for me. Now if only the Allagan belt and hands would drop today..... The visor will likely never drop lol
    Well the good news is, if it doesn't fall in the next 4~6 weeks, you'll be able to farm and get it in like a day once the next update hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Size View Post
    Well the good news is, if it doesn't fall in the next 4~6 weeks, you'll be able to farm and get it in like a day once the next update hits.
    isnt the 2.16 that come in 4-6week?the weekly restriction of coil is on the 2.2 patch and probably wont come until few more months.

    edit:nvm,just read the *letter from the producer Q/A* and they said 2.2 might come in march.
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    Last edited by Zakard; 02-04-2014 at 06:29 AM.

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