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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    If it hurt to try, then we wouldn't have any new games. We would have never had online games if it hurt to try anything. That kind of logic just doesn't make sense. Developing a game itself is a risk in its own if you have to invest in it.

    CoD is taking a crap because they are scared to try anything new..
    CoD is taking a crap? Cod is making BILLIONS. Even Black Ops which has been a disaster made billions, mw2 made billions and was only a little difference from mw1. And no doubt about it mw3 will make billions just because people will buy it as its Cod, I know I will and I still prefer BF3 at this moment.

    TERA came out and they didnt try fix what isnt broken, quest system is fine why try fix it just implment it, server setup is fine why fix it, its not broken, mail system, ah system, pvp system, the only thing they went onto is what they want to be different in, other than being next gen they wanted their own unique battle system so they worked hard on it and its paid off. Sadly they failed in the mistake of content but it only took them 4 months to release their first dungeons and they even had instances on release which XIV is finally getting 2... after 9 months lol.

    If something works, dont try fix it or make it better if its fine how it is. You cant make the wheel any better.

    And as SE have admitted, with their stat system. They went and over complicated it, for no reason and now they have to do all this clean up work and go back when its waste of time because it was never broken!!! Why change something that is fine, just improve on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    I guess it can hurt to try?

    Oh wait... over half a million lost members and $148million loss XD (though not all related to XIV).

    I guess it does hurt to try.

    Its not even about being rushed too, they started back in 05, and must of worked on it for at least 3 years and even had the full support of most of SE's employees due to the Crystal Tools engine.
    And what source do you have backing up your claim that they had 3 years to develop the game... Development for a game begins far sooner then when the press or leaks release information.

    You have peeked my curiosity...

    I also fail to see how 3 years is "enough time" to develop an MMO, Blizzard is averaging 6-8 years development round estimate and they are cranking out massively popular games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    CoD is taking a crap? Cod is making BILLIONS. Even Black Ops which has been a disaster made billions, mw2 made billions and was only a little difference from mw1. And no doubt about it mw3 will make billions just because people will buy it as its Cod, I know I will and I still prefer BF3 at this moment.

    TERA came out and they didnt try fix what isnt broken, quest system is fine why try fix it just implment it, server setup is fine why fix it, its not broken, mail system, ah system, pvp system, the only thing they went onto is what they want to be different in, other than being next gen they wanted their own unique battle system so they worked hard on it and its paid off. Sadly they failed in the mistake of content but it only took them 4 months to release their first dungeons and they even had instances on release which XIV is finally getting 2... after 9 months lol.

    If something works, dont try fix it or make it better if its fine how it is. You cant make the wheel any better.

    And as SE have admitted, with their stat system. They went and over complicated it, for no reason and now they have to do all this clean up work and go back when its waste of time because it was never broken!!! Why change something that is fine, just improve on it.
    The wheel was invent and we wanted to take to the air, should we have just stopped at the wheel?
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    They may have made billions, but that's not to say how there is a decline of players. Gameplay is getting too repetitive, seriously, the way CoD is going its like the equivilant of making FFXI, FFXI-2, FFXI-3, FFXI-2 Part 2, etc. I cant imagine playing the same game that many times.

    Same with Halo, just with more weapons. MMORPGs that are WoW remakes, games these days are just too dull. FFXIV brought something new, but people complained about it and now we are back to using FFXI battle system. My point being that it doesn't hurt to try. I bet if we had AA from the start, people would have complained and want a new battle system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    And what source do you have backing up your claim that they had 3 years to develop the game... Development for a game begins far sooner then when the press or leaks release information.

    You have peeked my curiosity...

    I also fail to see how 3 years is "enough time" to develop an MMO, Blizzard is averaging 6-8 years development round estimate and they are cranking out massively popular games.
    3 Years I'm guessing from them showing demos and begin releasing information. It was announced in 05, so if you're saying they started before then, then that just proves my point further more and makes XIV look way worse.

    XIV isn't rushed, SE is slow, and XIV current stage is proof of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    The wheel was invent and we wanted to take to the air, should we have just stopped at the wheel?
    Do you use a wheel in the air? .......

    Im sure you know what a plane is, and that it does not ride on its wheels in the air!
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    3 Years I'm guessing from them showing demos and begin releasing information. It was announced in 05, so if you're saying they started before then, then that just proves my point further more and makes XIV look way worse.

    XIV isn't rushed, SE is slow, and XIV current stage is proof of that.
    I am saying your claims have no bases, you think an MMO is developed in 3 years time which is laughable. You also believe that we should have stayed in the stone age which is also laughable. And every other post you mention TERA why the hell are you even here? go hang out on the TERA forums.

    TERA is not the standard by which all games should be modeled, its not even out yet in NA..
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Do you use a wheel in the air? .......

    Im sure you know what a plane is, and that it does not ride on its wheels in the air!
    I'm saying because you develop something that works, does not mean you should stop at that... smart a**
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    TERA is not the standard by which all games should be modeled, its not even out yet in NA..
    IMO it's about to be. :S

    BTW if you are trying to defend or justify release-date-FFXIV in any way, you already lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    IMO it's about to be. :S

    BTW if you are trying to defend or justify release-date-FFXIV in any way, you already lost.
    I am stating that FF XIV was rushed

    http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/final...and-sage-sundi

    Nobuaki Komoto dances around the words but he even starts off by stating they released the game way to soon...

    Post anything you have that says other wise and ill being to believe you and viion.
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