Final Fantasy XIV Auto-Attack Video

[Bled]

CoD is taking a crap? Cod is making BILLIONS. Even Black Ops which has been a disaster made billions, mw2 made billions and was only a little difference from mw1. And no doubt about it mw3 will make billions just because people will buy it as its Cod, I know I will and I still prefer BF3 at this moment.

TERA came out and they didnt try fix what isnt broken, quest system is fine why try fix it just implment it, server setup is fine why fix it, its not broken, mail system, ah system, pvp system, the only thing they went onto is what they want to be different in, other than being next gen they wanted their own unique battle system so they worked hard on it and its paid off. Sadly they failed in the mistake of content but it only took them 4 months to release their first dungeons and they even had instances on release which XIV is finally getting 2... after 9 months lol.

If something works, dont try fix it or make it better if its fine how it is. You cant make the wheel any better.

And as SE have admitted, with their stat system. They went and over complicated it, for no reason and now they have to do all this clean up work and go back when its waste of time because it was never broken!!! Why change something that is fine, just improve on it.

The wheel was invent and we wanted to take to the air, should we have just stopped at the wheel?

[viion]

The wheel was invent and we wanted to take to the air, should we have just stopped at the wheel?

Do you use a wheel in the air? .......

Im sure you know what a plane is, and that it does not ride on its wheels in the air!

[Bled]

Do you use a wheel in the air? .......

Im sure you know what a plane is, and that it does not ride on its wheels in the air!

I'm saying because you develop something that works, does not mean you should stop at that... smart a**

[viion]

I am saying your claims have no bases, you think an MMO is developed in 3 years time which is laughable. You also believe in the stone age which is also laughable. And every other post you mention TERA why the hell are you even here? go hang out on the TERA forums.

TERA is not the standard by which all games should be modeled, its not even out yet in NA..

I do hang out there, I hang out here too cuse I play XIV.

I'm saying because you develop something that works, does not mean you should stop at that... smart a**

I'm not saying you should stop at that, what I'm saying is even though we have planes doesn't mean we went and changed what the wheel is. You dont see planes with skiies instead, sliding across the ice to take off. The wheel works, it does the job, dont change it, no need to.

Same logic applies to the battle system. They had a working system but felt the need to change it, complicate it and eventually have it as a result of "broken" and being put back to how it should be. Because something like Stats does not need improving on, its a finalised and fully purposed feature. There are some things there are just not worth improving on.

It's like trying to reinvent the cup. CANT BE DONE!

[Bled]

I do hang out there, I hang out here too cuse I play XIV.



I'm not saying you should stop at that, what I'm saying is even though we planes doesn't mean we went and changed what the wheel is. You dont see planes with skiies instead sliding across the ice to take off. The wheel works, it does the job, dont change it, no need to. Same logic applies to the battle system. They had a working system but felt the need to change it, complicate it and eventually have it as a result of "broken" and being put back to how it should be. Because something like Stats does not need improving on, its a finalised and fully purposed feature. There are some things there are just not worth improving on. It's like trying to reinvent the cup. CANT BE DONE!

You see the attempt to reinvent the wheel and i see an attempt at the air plane. Ideas fail countless times when they try to revolutionize something; much like how many times inventions attempting flight failed, but when they nail it, it revolutionized travel.

In the analogy i see battle as TRAVEL and the wheel, air plane, ski what have it being different attempts to change/improve it, which would be different MMO's trying different systems to change/improve battle..

Many different successful MMO's have tried many different battle systems, FF XIV just failed and as much as that sucks it still dose not mean they should stop trying to innovate.

[Physic]

I do hang out there, I hang out here too cuse I play XIV.



I'm not saying you should stop at that, what I'm saying is even though we have planes doesn't mean we went and changed what the wheel is. You dont see planes with skiies instead, sliding across the ice to take off. The wheel works, it does the job, dont change it, no need to.

Same logic applies to the battle system. They had a working system but felt the need to change it, complicate it and eventually have it as a result of "broken" and being put back to how it should be. Because something like Stats does not need improving on, its a finalised and fully purposed feature. There are some things there are just not worth improving on.

It's like trying to reinvent the cup. CANT BE DONE!

if someone comes up with better tech, the wheel will be ignored. if someone comes up with a better cup, cup will be ignored. See water bottles, cup wasnt the end of drink holders. Games need to reinvent themselves or they never progress. the games you love would not be the games you love if no one tried to innovate. Bad execution is not bad idea, its just bad execution.

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if someone comes up with better tech, the wheel will be ignored. if someone comes up with a better cup, cup will be ignored. See water bottles, cup wasnt the end of drink holders. Games need to reinvent themselves or they never progress. the games you love would not be the games you love if no one tried to innovate. Bad execution is not bad idea, its just bad execution.

So do you only have bottles in your house? and when you wake up go down stairs you have a bottle of coffee? Then go out to starbucks and get a cappuccino in a bottle?

You guys are confusing with making additional features or REPLACING. The bottle does NOT replace the cup, its used for a DIFFERENT purpose.

The Stats system was REPLACED nothing was added on top, there wasnt any additional features, they just completely replaced it, and not they're unreplacing it. Because no one likes coffee in a bottle.

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So do you only have bottles in your house? and when you wake up go down stairs you have a bottle of coffee? Then go out to starbucks and get a cappuccino in a bottle?

You guys are confusing with making additional features or REPLACING. The bottle does NOT replace the cup, its used for a DIFFERENT purpose.

The Stats system was REPLACED nothing was added on top, there wasnt any additional features, they just completely replaced it, and not they're unreplacing it. Because no one likes coffee in a bottle.

With that same analogy do you only use cups in your house? or do you have mugs, bottles, cartons? Each different container serves a different purpose, but all are a means to the same end.

Again they tried something new and failed, that dose not mean new things shouldn't be tried to innovate non perfect systems.

[Physic]

So do you only have bottles in your house? and when you wake up go down stairs you have a bottle of coffee? Then go out to starbucks and get a cappuccino in a bottle?

You guys are confusing with making additional features or REPLACING. The bottle does NOT replace the cup, its used for a DIFFERENT purpose.

The Stats system was REPLACED nothing was added on top, there wasnt any additional features, they just completely replaced it, and not they're unreplacing it. Because no one likes coffee in a bottle.

The game should serve a different purpose from what they made before that is still out. People do like coffee in a bottle btw, see thermos.

analogy is pointless, fact is any creative engineering is going to look at multiple solutions, there is more than one solution. To be perfectly honest, the game didnt fail because of one feature, it failed because it was executed so poorly at launch most people didnt stay around, and they lost more (they honestly still had a lot of players in dec) when they basically said we arent adding any new content for the forseeable future.
Guild wars is trying to innovate, and people seem to be very excited about that. Its about execution. Some one builds a buggy car that breaks down, it doesnt matter if it uses wheels or not, the problem is it breaks down. Some one builds a car without wheels that has better speed and control and doesnt break down more than a regular car, and the wheeled car will be ignored forever.

[kukurumei]

if someone comes up with better tech, the wheel will be ignored. if someone comes up with a better cup, cup will be ignored. See water bottles, cup wasnt the end of drink holders. Games need to reinvent themselves or they never progress. the games you love would not be the games you love if no one tried to innovate. Bad execution is not bad idea, its just bad execution.

Just not you. That's the point.

It's a business, in a sense results with financial ruins of = death to business.

Should FF14's budget be made, released, and killed off so 5yrs down the road some KRMMO perfect the system?

FF14 is not a science project, it's a product. Unless a product sells, it's just people throwing money, even if it's a "greater good" it's not going to be them.

There's a right way to innovate and there's a wrong way. If you want to bet you life on a lottery to prove your son can see into the future...go ahead.

FF14 is going back to dull basics, but it should have been that with the start. Start with basics then add flavor and then maybe-just-maybe you can get a brilliant out of it if you're lucky.

Delusions of Grandeur can have disastrous results.