The Letter is up

[Takahime]

This is my vision for Archers, and hopefully Ranger job if it comes:

Regarding the attack itself
1. Light Shot is removed and becomes Ranged Auto Attack.
2. Ranged Auto Attack consumes Ammo, as with stacking 999xarrows and Refill, ammo is not much of a concern.
3. Ranged Auto Attack speed is constant, TP gains constant per second, but Damage scale with weapons.
4. Ranged Auto Attack removes the need to spam normal attacks to build TP.
5. Multishot, Trifurcate are still in the game, but only operate with Heavy Shot or other basic ranged attack (not TP based)
6. Buffs such as Raging Strike, Ferocity, Hawk's Eye, etc. are not consumed by Ranged Auto Attack.


Regarding CC targets there are different options
1. Let players use current mechanics to turn away from mob, disengage or unselect target.
2. Code in that CC targets are unselected by all attacking players.
3. Code in that CC targets get animation time to give players cushion for option 1 above.


We end up with the same result as we have now, but without the need to spam Light/Heavy shot to build TP.

[Physic]

This is my vision for Archers, and hopefully Ranger job if it comes:

1. Light Shot is removed and becomes Ranged Auto Attack.
2. Ranged Auto Attack consumes Ammo, as with stacking 999xarrows and Refill, ammo is not much of a concern.
3. Ranged Auto Attack speed is constant, TP gains constant per second, but Damage scale with weapons.
4. Ranged Auto Attack removes the need to spam normal attacks to build TP.
5. Multishot, Trifurcate are still in the game, but only operate with Heavy Shot or other basic ranged attack (not TP based)
6. Buffs such as Raging Strike, Ferocity, Hawk's Eye, etc. are not consumed by Ranged Auto Attack.

We end up with the same result as we have now, but without the need to spam Light/Heavy shot to build TP.

whatevs im tired of arguin, i wont main archer anyway, most archers i know dont want AA but if they put it in and make it play like a boring DD thats on them

[Rentahamster]

This is my vision for Archers, and hopefully Ranger job if it comes:

Regarding the attack itself
1. Light Shot is removed and becomes Ranged Auto Attack.
2. Ranged Auto Attack consumes Ammo, as with stacking 999xarrows and Refill, ammo is not much of a concern.
3. Ranged Auto Attack speed is constant, TP gains constant per second, but Damage scale with weapons.
4. Ranged Auto Attack removes the need to spam normal attacks to build TP.
5. Multishot, Trifurcate are still in the game, but only operate with Heavy Shot or other basic ranged attack (not TP based)
6. Buffs such as Raging Strike, Ferocity, Hawk's Eye, etc. are not consumed by Ranged Auto Attack.


Regarding CC targets there are different options
1. Let players use current mechanics to turn away from mob, disengage or unselect target.
2. Code in that CC targets are unselected by all attacking players.
3. Code in that CC targets get animation time to give players cushion for option 1 above.


We end up with the same result as we have now, but without the need to spam Light/Heavy shot to build TP.

This is a reasonable and sound proposal. Especially the fix for multishot (#5)

[Physic]

This is a reasonable and sound proposal. Especially the fix for multishot (#5)

how is that a fix? thats exactly how multi shot works now, other than being able to be used with light shot.

CC fixes turn away? that is an archaic and bad design. Though with AA they really should have an option to not AA. i guess the option is to select another mob, but what if there is no mob to select. It really sounds bad. they should just have made AA a button you toggle on and off.

the dudes style of playing is his by choice, and i wont tell him to play the job a different way, but not using basic attacks on archer is a very real, and very effective playstyle. so why should every one play his style, when with current AA plans allow his playing style and theirs, and a new playing style.

[Rentahamster]

how is that a fix? thats exactly how multi shot works now, other than being able to be used with light shot.

The fix is so that auto attack doesn't waste your multishot or buffs. That way you can have both auto attack, and be able to use multishot the same way you do now.

CC fixes turn away? that is an archaic and bad design. Though with AA they really should have an option to not AA. i guess the option is to select another mob, but what if there is no mob to select. It really sounds bad. they should just have made AA a button you toggle on and off.

#1 usually the mob you are trying to sleep/stun/bind is not the mob you are currently attacking anyway. The most common scenario is crowd controlling links and adds.

But, if you need to bind the current mob...

#2 You don't have to change target. Just press the cancel button twice on controller, or Esc key once on the keyboard and you drop your current target.

#3 Yes, a AA on/off toggle would be nice too.

the dudes style of playing is his by choice, and i wont tell him to play the job a different way, but not using basic attacks on archer is a very real, and very effective playstyle. so why should every one play his style, when with current AA plans allow his playing style and theirs, and a new playing style.

With Takahime's fixes, you'd still have your playstyle even with AA. It's not as different as you think it is.