Patch 2.2: Let's Copy the Worst Practice of MMOs From the Last 10 Years...

[Lecreuset]

Remember the terrible bard nerf that would destroy the class and it not being wanted anymore? OH WAIT! IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! PEOPLE OVERREACTED!

If you're that worried about people knowing you beat twintania before the nerf your achievement shows the date when you first killed her.

[BalthierLove]

This thread is stupid, simply because everything was predicted from the beginning. Yoshi basically told everyone that new content would be hard and it will be nerfed as they move on with newer content...

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I can't. I just can't. This thread should just go die with the other (same topic!) ones.

[SarcasmMisser]

I think people are vastly overestimating both the item level of new gear and how easy twin will be post-patch. If the mechanics are still unavoidable that's still a lot of coordination for a DF group.

[Tadacho]

Friend: "Dude, I just beat <insert boss/raid>!!!"
You: "Nice! I remember when I beat that before the nerf ;P"
Friend: "Haha was it really hard?"
You: "Yup you had to do <insert mechanics>"
Friend: "Wow that sounds really hard."

*feeling of accomplishment restored*

^ Conversations you have in every MMO ever. SE isn't diminishing anybody's accomplishment. Such a feeling is self-perceived and perhaps you should check your own ego and/or esteem.

[Alkimi]

Accomplishments and the sense of prestige that comes with it is the MMORPG equivalent to "winning" in other game genres. It is the very goal of the game and the entire point to continuing to play after you've exhausted the main story. They are taking that away from people, thus demolishing the game for them. FFXI DID NOT DO THIS! They stopped at lvl 75 for many years before some guy decided it would be a good idea to try raising the level cap... which destroyed much of the game.

People hate on Abyssea and the level cap raise all the time, but the truth is that XI was stale and going nowhere. Most of the people who hated these were probably the same people who botted kings every day to maintain their deluded feeling of self-importance.

I actually enjoyed Abyssea. and it was the lvl99 cap that killed it for me. Everything became a Soul Voice/Embrava buffed WAR/DRK stun lock zerg fest, endgame was absolutely intolerable and I never went back.

[Cymoril]

Thankfully I didn't hang on past 90 days to find out this game wasn't for me. Gratz to all of you that enjoy the current state of the game. The 3+ weeks(still ongoing) to get customer support to work with me on a improper item purchase helped me make my decision. If they're that hard to work with on something Rift or other games could handle in a day or 2 I've decided not to resub/award them for a craptastic job. If they do something in the future more than have an arena for PvP I might gain an interest again, but SE has already shown me how they treat sub'ing customers.

[indira]

And? So because you paid for it, you're forced to do something you clearly dislike? Your free time can't be that worthless.

Only an idiot would stick around doing something they hate.

point to where i said i hate something.
i dont like the direction the game is going & people like you personally attack others because you have nothing better to do then try and make you self look better then you actually are.

[saber_alter]

this thread just contradicts what many a thread has been complaining about.

people finish content before 2.1. people complain.
they don't add vertical progression in 2.1. the same people complain.
they add vertical progession in 2.2, and removed the lockout on coil 1-5 (which we asked for, remember) and nerfed it (which they said they would). the same people complain.

sure the lockout gets removed, but most likely myth and allagan become the new bare minimum for the next raid. the people who beat the content before 2.2 get to say they beat it when it was actually difficult, and will probably blaze through the next turns...while it's still difficult. it's not the fact you did it that you cleared it come 2.2, its the fact that you were one of the first.

@SarcasmMisser: i am making the assumption it is going to be ilvl110, since our current gear level is i90-95, and that would put it at the same gap as Darklight is with myth.

Which is why sideways progression worked so well in that game. You didnt just have one set of BIS gear, you had tp set, idle set, ws set, etc etc. Sideways progression could work in FFXIV but you can't expect the amount of it that XI had, They are just different games.

XI has had time to build horizontal progression. in 2.1 we got a little horizontal progression. But it's a new game in MMO standards (in terms of MMOs that actually survive), and it's probably going to be a long time before the XIV team finally gets their shit sorted out and makes something like that happen.

[Nosiahk]

Yup, I'm going to wait 6 months to get my relic. Another 8 months to gear up the hard way. And maybe 3 years to defeat coil 1 - 5 pre-nerf. So much accomplishment.

[Ferocious]

Yup, I'm going to wait 6 months to get my relic. Another 8 months to gear up the hard way. And maybe 3 years to defeat coil 1 - 5 pre-nerf. So much accomplishment.

You must be one hell of a scrub. After reaching 50, you can hit ilvl80 in just 2 days... yep, just 2. Relic can be gained in two hours. Repeat CT - 30 min runs until you have your piece and 200/50 tomestones. Get full DL and first myth piece. Farm ultima for two more i80 pieces. This should give you ilvl80. If not, even the biggest casuals out there can easily farm coil 1-2/garuda EM for more pieces. In fact, T1-4 are easy pugs these days. All you would need is good practice and group for T5.

So stop over-exaggerating, I have ALL classes at ilvl80+ without even trying. The game is already very casual friendly as it is.