Thread: Patch 2.2: Let's Copy the Worst Practice of MMOs From the Last 10 Years...

Originally Posted by Renvalt

Seriously, it played like some min-maxer's wetdream.

I remember. It was beautiful.

They still could have just added content and simply added alternative gear. It doesn't even need different stats: It could have the same stats as some other pieces that currently exist. That way they put the focus on experiencing the content rather than on artificially ramping everything up continuously and promoting power creep.

Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm

I remember. It was beautiful.

Which is why sideways progression worked so well in that game. You didnt just have one set of BIS gear, you had tp set, idle set, ws set, etc etc. Sideways progression could work in FFXIV but you can't expect the amount of it that XI had, They are just different games.

Originally Posted by Alkimi

Camping kings every day for years for sidegrades? Nobody wants that, not even you.

I do miss kings actually I miss my gear swaps to

Originally Posted by Oleander

Which is why sideways progression worked so well in that game. You didnt just have one set of BIS gear, you had tp set, idle set, ws set, etc etc. Sideways progression could work in FFXIV but you can't expect the amount of it that XI had, They are just different games.

Hey, I don't quite care for that whole "Best in Slot" crap.

And early-game FFXI, there was that kind of bullshit in game to begin with. Didn't have Emperor Pin? Kicked for not having. Warrior at Level 37+ without Ninja properly leveled, Utsusemi gained and the tools to use it? Didn't have Dual Axes? Boo hoo, you so bad Mister Gimp Warrior. Go home and play WoW.

I was forced to spend time in Giddeus farming Yagudo Necklaces for gods knows how long, while my so-called "LS buddies" all got to play in their fancy ass Dynamis/Sky/Limbus/Salvage arenas. I officially quit the game just a tiny bit after Wings of the Goddess came out, so I never got to experience how Abyssea might have "ruined" the game. But I'll admit - if Abyssea made 5-2's Shadow Lord even more pointless, then perhaps it was best I left after all.

In the end, I'm all for enjoying things the same way everyone else did, but not if you intentionally try to invalidate that content. Perhaps the ones responsible for "making content obsolete" isn't SE, perhaps it's you?

Originally Posted by Fendred

Accomplishments and the sense of prestige that comes with it is the MMORPG equivalent to "winning" in other game genres. It is the very goal of the game and the entire point to continuing to play after you've exhausted the main story. They are taking that away from people, thus demolishing the game for them. FFXI DID NOT DO THIS! They stopped at lvl 75 for many years before some guy decided it would be a good idea to try raising the level cap... which destroyed much of the game.

And in XI you got the best gear after working your ass off for it, then it also became less special as things progressed. The only place to get E. Body, M. Body, etc was from Kings at one point, then ToAU came out and all those people who didn't want to spend time camping Kings started getting the high tier abjurations just from doing Einherjar and killing Odin. Then it progressed even further and they turned into force spawn NMs. Want that Defending Ring? Just spam farm pop items and kill HNMs until the RNG gods bless you with their favor.

XI did the same thing as they're doing in XIV only on a slower scale. If you really want that sense of accomplishment go for server or world first, otherwise accept the fact that you'll be progressing at your own pace and the content that was difficult for you will eventually be made easy for the masses.

Problem I have is its just boring. I don't personally enjoy chasing gear which essentially is the same as my old gear just slightly better.

I want options. I want multiple gear sets that I can switch to for different situations. Why is it even called Armoury system? Should be called One gear setup until next major patch system.