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    sounds like hes saying crafters should be playing the market, not crafting en mass, so the process isnt that important, and will therefore be made ez mode. i hope by easy he means less monotonous, and not more monotonous. Not the direction i would have gone, but if its super easy/fast to level i guess bots wont matter as much
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    What will be the point of playing the market when everyone has every craft maxed out? All items will be flooded to the market and be worthless. No one will buy them because they can make them. Crafting is going to become something you do to support yourself rather than produce for other people. Glad I made hundreds of millions when it was good.

    Should I even bother skilling up crafts any more? If it's going to be made easier it seems like wasted time. I've already stopped ranking gathering classes because it's going to be made easier. With all the content that is being put in the game becoming obsolete within days of a patch you're giving me less and less reasons to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    welp there it goes, crafting ezmode coming soon to theaters near you, guess it ll be a side thing now.
    imho, that's how it should have been from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    What will be the point of playing the market when everyone has every craft maxed out? All items will be flooded to the market and be worthless. No one will buy them because they can make them. Crafting is going to become something you do to support yourself rather than produce for other people. Glad I made hundreds of millions when it was good.

    Should I even bother skilling up crafts any more? If it's going to be made easier it seems like wasted time. I've already stopped ranking gathering classes because it's going to be made easier. With all the content that is being put in the game becoming obsolete within days of a patch you're giving me less and less reasons to play.
    i guess it will be about items. maybe they will institute 1 class per person, sounds wack but looks like that is the direction they believe in.
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    It always was a side thing. I don't see any raids with 8 crafters to make the 1 ring of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    It always was a side thing. I don't see any raids with 8 crafters to make the 1 ring of power.
    Yeah, but that would be sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    It always was a side thing. I don't see any raids with 8 crafters to make the 1 ring of power.
    used to be a side thing that took as long as leveling a battle class, had its own craft class quests, and gears, now it looks like it wont be anymore. oh well change of dev team means different plans, some people will be very happy if crafting becomes ezmode.
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    I dont think the developers or the community reps know what game we're playing, its like they play a much better and different game that has challenge and purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    There are some great points in this thread so we brought them up to Yoshida and he said he will look into making the crafting process easier. We want crafters to have fun analyzing the market, searching for demands and creating products for sale, rather than the crafting process in and of itself.
    Hi Rukkirii,

    Thanks for bringing up this thread to Yoshida-san.

    I would say, though, that unless by "easier" SE is going to make it an Auto-Leveller like Peregrine is talking about, then it's still not going to help the situation any. If SE makes it, say, 25% easier (less Elemental Destabilizations, or say it's 25% Faster to finish a synth), that still doesn't address any of the concerns on either side of this argument, because Bots still have an advantage and it only slightly eases the burden of real players.

    I'm in favor of a Crafting System that's FUN and engaging, and not just about sitting in one spot and hitting "ENTER" 2,000 times to get a level.

    I remember someone on FFXIV Core during Month 1 or 2, giving an example of making a fun Crafting Mini-Game where you had to Smelt the Ore Down in a Forge, then take it and start Hammering and Forming it, and then, another step to Polish and complete the synth. That activity sounds far more engaging and interesting than what we have now. Just a quick example.

    If you could pass on our further reaction about wanting "FUN, not easy" that'd be great. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    It always was a side thing. I don't see any raids with 8 crafters to make the 1 ring of power.
    OMG! you just made the awesomest crafting suggestion ever!

    Quote Originally Posted by Naylia View Post
    Not easier!!! More fun!!!
    Yes, please SE, we don't want crafting easier, please don't just make sp gains more or something like that.
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