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    Quote Originally Posted by zdub303 View Post
    More servers in the same data center will do nothing to help this problem, nothing whatsoever. You'll just be in queue with even more dps waiting just about as long as you are now.
    You have proof this won't work how? Queue's were never this bad before the Data Center crap they did. After that and 2.1, I've waited to the point where I give up and go do other things because it's pathetic. Doing something to try and fix it is better than doing nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazahashi View Post
    You have proof this won't work how? Queue's were never this bad before the Data Center crap they did. After that and 2.1, I've waited to the point where I give up and go do other things because it's pathetic. Doing something to try and fix it is better than doing nothing.
    Yeah they were. I bet you can get several people who remember the AK "Reserving Instance" issue. Where the party was made, but the instances were all full. If someone dropped out, you got sent back to the end of the line for instance reservations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Yeah they were. I bet you can get several people who remember the AK "Reserving Instance" issue. Where the party was made, but the instances were all full. If someone dropped out, you got sent back to the end of the line for instance reservations.
    Considering I've only been playing as BLM since ARR launched....they weren't for me, nor were they for many others I've spoken to. It's gotten worse, not better. The AK issue was more of an actual glitch in their system then a problem with DPS classes being many and tanks being few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazahashi View Post
    Considering I've only been playing as BLM since ARR launched....they weren't for me, nor were they for many others I've spoken to. It's gotten worse, not better.
    Nah, the wait now has nothing to do with instances available or the datacenters being in groups. Adding more servers or removing the dividers won't do much of anything since the root issue is still the same.

    As an example of the Reserving Instance issue:


    That was COMMON, especially on Mondays. As you can see the group was already complete, they had to wait for a free instance server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Nah, the wait now has nothing to do with instances available or the datacenters being in groups. Adding more servers or removing the dividers won't do much of anything since the root issue is still the same.

    As an example of the Reserving Instance issue:


    That was COMMON, especially on Mondays. As you can see the group was already complete, they had to wait for a free instance server.
    Again, that is not an issue with too many DPS and not enough tanks, which is what the issue at present is. That was a problem with their servers reaching max capacity for number of instances allowed for that dungeon. I see your point, but it has nothing to do with the one I'm making at present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazahashi View Post
    Again, that is not an issue with too many DPS and not enough tanks, which is what the issue at present is. That was a problem with their servers reaching max capacity for number of instances allowed for that dungeon. I see your point, but it has nothing to do with the one I'm making at present.
    And that issue cannot be fixed without people playing tanks/healers more or groups allowing more than 2 DPS per tank/healer combo. Opening up DF to all servers again, will not help. Part of the reason it would get worse in that regard is how tanks, more so new and learning ones, are treated in instances. You might be a nice little butterfly, but many are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazahashi View Post
    And not doing anything at all isn't helping either so?
    What do you want them to do, force people to tank? Opening up the DF, assuming they could get rid of the instability issues, won't help. So, next on your list?
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    Last edited by ispano; 01-23-2014 at 11:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    And that issue cannot be fixed without people playing tanks/healers more or groups allowing more than 2 DPS per tank/healer combo. Opening up DF to all servers again, will not help.
    And not doing anything at all isn't helping either so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazahashi View Post
    You have proof this won't work how? Queue's were never this bad before the Data Center crap they did. After that and 2.1, I've waited to the point where I give up and go do other things because it's pathetic. Doing something to try and fix it is better than doing nothing.
    My queue's as a tank are instant and usually about 1-5 minutes as a healer. This obviously means that there's a lack of tanks and healers and that it's not a problem with the data centers.

    The only way to fix this would be to entice more people to play as tanks or healers, or to change the size of parties needed for a dungeon. Four is obviously too small as that only allows you to bring two DPS. Having light parties of five or even six would greatly reduce the queue times for DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    My queue's as a tank are instant and usually about 1-5 minutes as a healer.
    I want to know what you're queueing for because I definitely do not get 5 minute queues as a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazahashi View Post
    You have proof this won't work how?
    He's correct. It's basic math. You're increasing the number of tanks in queue, yes, but also increasing the number of DPS. It's the illusion of a solution.
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