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  1. #681
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorel View Post
    True. But to be fair, we did fight the same monsters at different levels in FFXI.

    Taking my rose-colored nostalgia glasses off for a moment, FFXI was far from perfect in offering a balance (notice I didn't say variety) of creatures to effectively level on. I spent most of my FFXI career killing mandragoras, crabs, goblins, and colibri. Not because there wasn't a variety of different monsters, but because these particular monsters were the least lethal and rewarded you with the same experience as the most lethal monsters of the same level. That's an imbalance. So much so that it negates the purpose of having a variety in the first place, no?

    The Development Team should be careful of this as they conduct their overhaul. Not only should we go to new places, see new sights, and hear new sounds ... we should also have to fight new things.

    And as another poster said, those new things should make sense for the area.
    • Goats don't live in the desert (too little to graze on).
    • Goobues don't live on the beach (saltwater doesn't like trees).
    • Giraffe-Camel hybrids could live in a desert.
    • Giant Mutant Clams could live on the beach.
    We not only need variety, we also need things to balance ... and to make sense.
    Agree with this all. I wish FFXI's experience system was better, rewarding you with much higher xp for killing monsters that were more challenging just makes sense, and it should definitely be used going forward.

    When you have the option of killing pieste and colibri, you should be able to actually have a choice based on what you gain from it.
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    Speaking as a new player and one who never really played XI, I totally agree with the OP. A lot of the gripes I hear from XI vets makes me roll my eyes, but this is one area where we definitely share an opinion. There's a few really beautiful spots, like Casseopiea or that marshy bit in Thanalan on the way to the ferry but I feel like its a closed-loop system. wheres the brackets? the stages of advancement? I know Im new and all but its sad to me to think i've got 30+ ranks to go on several jobs and its ALL gonna happen right here where im standing, doing the same exact things....Dont get me wrong, I actually kinda love this game, for some reason or other. Sort of like that pathetic friend that has a good heart but is stubborn and wont pull their shit together. you can see the potential, but is the swamp I've got to wade through with them worth it? Are they just using me to help carry their baggage? Oh SE, I dont know why can't I quit you.
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  3. #683
    I've seen troll threads get Dev posts faster than this. Nearly 70 pages, and not even a nod? Great work here everyone, we're the elephant in the room, and this elephant is only getting bigger.

    It's silly to wait till ishgard to have an actual adventure, and if thats their plan to open up diversity, then a lot of new players will be turned off trying to get 50 once the ps3 version is released. Here's to hoping we get a response, and another /bump towards a fix.
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    Please Rate and Follow this Amazing Thread--A Better Eorzea for the Future!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/12971-One-to-Fifty-One-Zone-Long-OP

  4. #684
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    Maintenance tomorrow for patch 1.17c .

    Wonder what that's all about?
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  5. #685
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    Thanks, everyone! Reaching this many pages and views without a crown... It's truly a feat.

    Over the last week of posting, we've been sharing our concerns that our current world offers no sense of adventure, progression, advancement, diversity, milestones, or unique experiences. We're running back and forth, from one to fifty, from one corner of the zone to the other. We're fighting right outside the city walls, running past new recruits.

    This thread calls for change. But more importantly, it calls for an answer. Clarity. Hope. Closure.

    Do they believe adding some camps/hubs to gaps in our current maps will solve the issue of a complete lack of true diversity and atmosphere?

    We can level from 1 to 99 in our current zones. Zones which largely never change. Zones which are connected thoughtlessly by seams anyway. Zones in which the music never alternates. Zones which don't take us far away. Zones which don't offer a new 'M'ap. Zones which offer such little reward as we grow stronger and stronger.

    We will ever see snow? Will it be for ranks 99 to 150? Because as it stands, we don't need more zones. I love having several choices of zones to choose from, but they've limited themselves by adding multiple zones the size of regions which take us from 1 to 50 to 99.

    We've kept this thread alive for a week. We stayed on focus, we maintained the peace. We're not asking for anything strange or controversial or cutting-edge. We're sharing our concerns about a true adventure from 1 to 50 and beyond. We're asking for an answer as to whether or not we can expect any changes. I personally feel that if they don't care about the the current state of Eorzea, how can they expect others to?

    I can't thank everyone enough for sticking it out through this monster of 70 pages, 600+ responses, 24,000+ views later. Your agreement and support has been mind-blowing. I'm genuinely glad to be in the company of others who also long for a journey, who want to leave home.

    I hope this post doesn't come off to some as being too negative or forceful. I truly share my feelings with the rest of you that we brought this so far, but have yet to be acknowledged.

    Here's to a true world for all of us. Here's to an answer, soon!
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  6. #686
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    Perrin_Aybarra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post
    Maintenance tomorrow for patch 1.17c .

    Wonder what that's all about?
    Either a targeting fix or maybe the start of a summer event? but nothing in regards to this thread
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    So yet another topic gets a crown today and its not the INSANELY HUGE ONE. If we get no response by tomorrow, im guessing this will be on the "screw those guys, thats too much work" list.

    But SE is slow as hell, 9 months and not a whole lot has really changed in the game, and now after 3 months we will finally see auto attack and 2 dungeons. They should call this FFXIV: the waiting game.
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  8. #688
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post
    Maintenance tomorrow for patch 1.17c .

    Wonder what that's all about?
    Well is isn't going to be redesigned zones.
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  9. #689
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    The French version of today's letter speaks of the Dev. team working hard on radical changes to Eorzea while the other teams work on new battle system and dungeons.

    The english version talks about "great and positive changes to Eorzea". I wonder which is closer to the original japanese message.

    Even though this is reading too much into this and it's prolly just translation flavor, I feel that there's hope.
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  10. #690
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    Yeah they do say radical changes to Eorzea in the french letter.. there is hope but he can also just mean Eorzea as synonym to FFXIV and not mean the actual zone designs but just the functionality and content of the game.

    Lets not get our hopes too high until we get a rep in here to give us some /comfort
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