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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    What? The new Main scenario quests have you randomly do level 15/30 guildhest, new dungeon Pharos Sirius just had gear shifted from Amdapor Keep into it because apparently creating a bunch of new cool looking gear is too hard. Treasure maps are just upscaled monsters in boring 1 minute encounters on a 18 hour cooldown. I can probably think of more if you'd like.
    You're certainly talking about different subject.

    I'm talking about the dungeon being different from their normal mode dungeons.

    You're talking about loot you get and other content not related to Dungeons.
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    Hard mode praetorium would be nice. I enjoy that dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Primals are the only thing I notice are actual recycled content.


    I am responding to this statement. Also, how is the loot you get from dungeons not related to dungeons?
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    Praetorium Extreme Mode: The Sex Tape of Livia and Gaius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post

    3) Final Boss: Proto-Ultima Weapon.
    u sure didn't read the storyline text didn't u OP? The Ultima Weapon we fought is what remains of the mostly original Allagan parts and a little fraction of Garlean magitek parts strapped on it. Proto UW won't happen unless the Garlean have largely reverse engineered Allagan technology
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    u sure didn't read the storyline text didn't u OP? The Ultima Weapon we fought is what remains of the mostly original Allagan parts and a little fraction of Garlean magitek parts strapped on it. Proto UW won't happen unless the Garlean have largely reverse engineered Allagan technology
    When they found Ultima it was actually badly damaged. It took time and knowledge of allagan technology provided by Lahabrea to bring it back to actually functioning state.

    There are also signs they have tried to replocate Ultima since as you progress to Ultima you will encounter failed Ultima parts called Proto-Ultima Arms.

    These Proto-Ultima parts always retract back into the hole they appear from when defeated so it is unknown if these Proto-Ultima Parts have stopped function or not.

    Also we do not know how much knowledge did Lahabrea gave to Gaius but due to the vast knowledge that the Ascians have about the Allagans and their technology Lahabrea can give him enough information to create a Proto-Ultima that uses Garlean Magitek.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    I am responding to this statement. Also, how is the loot you get from dungeons not related to dungeons?
    Sorry but when it comes to dungeons I separate loot out from how the Dungeon Mechanics work.

    better we stop discussion here since we calculate the value of dungeons differently.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 01-21-2014 at 02:09 PM.

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    Yuumei Lucetius
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    Lahabrea posing a challenge would be nice for a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocte View Post
    Lahabrea posing a challenge would be nice for a change.
    Yeah. I agree with you. Lahabrea could have been a very hard boss as he's a both a BLM and SMN in a way. Just liked to see what he'll become in later patches as he's not dead apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocte View Post
    Lahabrea posing a challenge would be nice for a change.
    Well if Praetorium (Hard) is introduced it will not have a harder version of Lahabrea since lore wise you are entering a part of Praetorium that survived Ultima's attack that contains experimental Magitek machines.

    It most likely will only have Machine enemies, Machine Magitek bosses, and other enemies related to a Magitek research lab such as introducing old FF series enemies like...

    Chaser


    Magitek Armor


    Proto Armor


    Trapper


    Number 024


    Number 128


    They may even have Praetorium (Hard) as a new Story Dungeon for the Main Storyline where the final boss after Proto-Ultima would be Number 128.

    This will allow Praetorium (Hard) to be the 3rd Dungeon we can have for Main Story Scenario Roulette.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 01-22-2014 at 01:34 AM.

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    Aramil Souldrifter
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    Since Praet and CM don't have gear drops wouldn't make since to make a hRD mode for these dungeons.
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