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    Player
    Peptaru's Avatar
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Every enrage implemented in every game ever.
    Except for FFXIV, the only one that matters here. 99% of games is not 100% of games.
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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Tegan Laron
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    People consider it cheap/exploitative, as it is supposed to be a game-ender but fails to do so and it disables all other fight mechanics.
    If SE wanted it to be a game-ender, they would have made it a game-ender. People keep insisting there was some mistake with the enrage, but there wasn't. There are plenty of other examples of a hard enrage in the game if you fail to meet a timer/dps check so people need to accept it was designed this way intentionally.
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    Cearka Larue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    People consider it cheap/exploitative.
    it doesn't matter what "people" consider. A small group of players don't get to decide whether the strategy is legitimate or not. It only matters of the devs consider it an exploit, and as of now they do not, which means it is perfectly a legitimate strategy until they say otherwise. When the devs decide its no longer legitimate, I support their decision. But if they never do, I'll always consider it a viable strategy. Also, the idea that there is only one way to do things and that there should never be a reason to look for alternate strategies is STUPID. You may as well just watch a MOVIE if you want to remove that much player control from a GAME.
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    Last edited by cearka; 01-31-2014 at 10:51 AM.

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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavos View Post
    I see nothing wrong with Turn 2 enrage mode. Why are you mad?
    A fight that rewards you for going slower is a big slap in the face of all those speed runners.
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    Doki Waku
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    Well it takes a LOT longer to PUG since you eat up an additional healer as well.
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    Dwindle Blight
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    Odin
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    Well it takes a LOT longer to PUG since you eat up an additional healer as well.
    People still don't have healer alts?

    It's like this game doesn't have a class system at all.
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    Aveira Teleri
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    Well it takes a LOT longer to PUG since you eat up an additional healer as well.
    Why do people think this is the case?

    Turn 2 enrage is easily doable with 2 tanks and 2 healers...
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    Player MurakumoMillennium's Avatar
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    Murakumo Millennium
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    It's not the fact that people are doing it that's bad. It's the fact that the enrage mechanic itself is bad.

    There's a reason it's called "enrage" after all. Many MMOs have them, and they're always a bad thing. Be it the boss now 1 shots everybody, mechanics get harder/faster, etc. Except this game, where failing to beat the boss in the required time actually makes the fight easier. And not just by a little bit, but by a lot by making the boss stop using every move it has except for a fairly weak aoe.
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    Seth Ahriman
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    bump... this is stupid easy
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    Permadank Kyrie
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    Malboro
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    I don't really care if people or do it or not. It is clearly an exploit though.

    I have never even tried it that because my FC group has always just done it by passing the rot. I really have no interest in waiting for the entire run down of the clock when a competent geared group can down it in 5 minutes.

    However, I am sure pugging it can be "difficult". It is a cheap win because it circumvents all of the actual mechanics of the fight and does lessen the achievement across all servers. But, if SE thinks its fine then that Turn is what it is.
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