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    Greetings,

    The development team is aware of the strategy that is being used for the Binding Coil of Bahamut Turn 2 against ADS and they do not consider it to be an exploit. There are currently no plans to make any adjustments.
    Good joke. Sadly, i don't trust them anymore since they said a lot of things from 1.0 would be exclusive. And now...

    I don't mind this buff, it's nice, but... "Hey, T2 0 clicks it's fine, don't worry about it. Go for it ^^. WE'LL DESTROY YOUR HOPES IN LESS THAN 1 MONTH, MUAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!"

    At least have the decency to put on the patch notes that Bahamut Coil has been adjusted, not "oh well... they'll discover it soon". Thats a cheap move...
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    You're missing the point, the point is "rage mode" is supposed to be a game ender. The fact that it isn't makes it a poorly designed mechanic even if it is allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You're missing the point, the point is "rage mode" is supposed to be a game ender. The fact that it isn't makes it a poorly designed mechanic even if it is allowed.
    If it was meant to be a game ender, why not make it insta-wipe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavos View Post
    If it was meant to be a game ender, why not make it insta-wipe?
    Because that's a lame cop out compared to just killing people harder?

    What about parties that kill all the nodes? ADS wouldn't use rot anymore (at the cost of a haste buff I believe).
    It's only possible to kill 5 of them. If you kill all the nodes, he will stil do his laser, the 5 way fire bomb (the 1 you can't do in order to do 5), and do both of them a lot more often and a lot faster (harder to dodge) and good luck silencing high voltage. Besides this, if you killed 5 nodes you'd hit the enrage timer anyway.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 01-21-2014 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Because that's a lame cop out compared to just killing people harder?

    It's only possible to kill 5 of them. If you kill all the nodes, he will stil do his laser, the 5 way fire bomb (the 1 you can't do in order to do 5), and do both of them a lot more often and a lot faster (harder to dodge) and good luck silencing high voltage. Besides this, if you killed 5 nodes you'd hit the enrage timer anyway.
    Okay, So he still has access to 3 abilities. This still doesn't address the main point of my post:

    Why is it such a big deal? Why do we have to judge and police what others do? Why can't we just do our own things and if we see something we don't like, go find people who are like minded? Is the immersion of the oh so fleshed out and captivating coil story line being compromised? Is 0 click hoarding weapons of mass destruction?

    Do you really think that the people that use 0 click as a crutch are going to be able to clear T4? It's not like they are getting all that far.

    Why would Square patch it when T6-10 is set to release in like a week(?), if anything, they said they would nerf the previous turns when new ones came out.

    Sometimes it's better to just let some things go and not worry about what other people are doing.
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    I don't understand why people think this is circumventing the mechanics. If that's the case, we shouldn't be killing any node at all since it locks ADS from being able to use that ability.

    What about parties that kill all the nodes? ADS wouldn't use rot anymore (at the cost of a haste buff I believe). Is this an exploit? Some people trade which abilities to lock are they exploiting by choosing which they want to lock and not follow a black and white knowledge base?

    You're trading one set of mechanics for another (which you could lock anyway) so in the end, who cares? Why would you care anyway? Did the 0 click strat break up your marriage or something? Is your immersion being threatened? "Bads" are able to pass T2, but do you really think they will be able to pass T4?

    I mean, really, why do we gotta worry about what other people do? Gotta let it go (besides, T6-10 are due shortly where you can lord over all the "casuals" or "bads" by clearing before them).
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    Not going to happen. Deal with it. Nothing so bad about it.
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    You're probably one of those people who sells runs and someone is using said method to undercut you.
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    I don't know of anyone who would buy a turn 2 kill >.>

    But aside from that, I still do Turn 2 the old-fashioned way and one-shot it weekly. It's faster and I can go on with my life.

    I get a nice chuckle out of all the PF TURN 2 ENRAGE DON'T SUCK OR GET KICKED! I mean come on, how could you suck at just spamming cure 3 and succor...
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    dont waste time by patching old fights to be boring and annoying, instead add turn 6


    instead of punishing players for finding out of the box solutions to old content, reward them with new content
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