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[AdvancedWind]

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But the issue here is: why is someone solely using the DF? At this point it should be common sense that the DF on the western servers is a pratice tool for your first 30 minutes in a fight and nothing more. You don't go to DF expecting to win anything harder than Ifrit HM. You go in once or twice to see the early basic mechanics, then you never do it again unless you're super bored or feeling lucky.

Shout in Mor Dhona (pre 2.1), make your PF (post 2.1). It's simple, anyone can do it, set their own party rules and expectations and run it.

[Argurios]

Boobies - that is all = )

[Azoryl]

Titan HM is not hard. The hardest part is finding 7 other people that are competent enough to complete it.

My best advice level BLM and do the primals. You will learn ever pattern. Why? Because if you want to do any damage you will need to know when to stand to get a couple extra casts off. For example, In Ultima HM, The first set of plumes is outer then inner, so you prep by standing in first. The 2nd set is inner outer, however, there is a special spots on the outside where you can tottaly avoid the plumes by standing in, thus allowing you to cast uninterrupted.

[Delorean]

Most of the anwsers posted in this thread are like your. They ignore the main issue and just blame the OP for being bad while they probably never experienced this fight the way the OP did.

Alright then, let's get to the heart of the manner.

There are too many variables for DF to give you a group worth making an honest effort with.

These people don't have a titan kill because they don't actually want it. They just kind of want it. They don't want to kill it and mount it's head on their wall - kind of like how I'd like to have a diamond lamborghini but wouldn't want to even look at what the insurance on it costs.

But why shouldn't you have to try hard to get one of the best weapons in the game?

[MeiUshu]

I had 170+ runs to get Titan HM, mostly because people left after 1 or 2 fails. Someone explained it, lines work that those with a similar line as mine, same computer as mine living in the US (I am in Europe) will see the action before I do, thus when I react, aka when I see it on my screen, it is already too late, more then not I have been hit even if i was miles away from the plummets or landslide. It isnt lag, everything was fluid,all moves were properly happening. Allowing 1 or 2 sec more, could help. Reaction times are something we do not control, there has to be an adjustement in values that should be sorted out. I got my relic, I dont go in Titan HM, I cant, so this yes limits my enjoyment of the game, by alot. Titan isnt hard as such but there is a reason why a vaste majority of people cant do it or require weeks at end to do it. Being bad or a poor player shouldnt be a reason to throw you out of a game, as some of you in this thread suggest, stupidily at that.

Mei

[DeceptionsWrath]

Maybe they should fix their connection? Its not SEs fault they have a bad connection. And Titan HM is not hardcore content in my opinion

So tired of seeing this arguement. My connection works great on EVERYTHING but this game. This is the ONLY game i have played where the latency is what makes content challenging. The game is easy, and i've been playing games for a very long time, the challenege is the latency this game gives people. If i'm casting a spell then run out of an AOE targeted attack i should NOT still get hit. But no, in this game, i need to run out then start casting again for it to "save" my position which is beyond stupid. I don't want the game dumbed down but i want stuff fixed. Well honestly i'm with the OP, Titan HM has made me quit this game, so i don't care if they fix it or not anymore. The servers are too bad to warrent a sub imo.

[DeceptionsWrath]

There's MMO's out there suited for people with poor connections, such as Perfect World.

Also, it's not SE's fault. The content is fine for those with stable connections, something they suggested you have before playing the game.

Well my connection is far above what is required for this game. I see a lot of this being pointed @ the users connection. My ping is between 110-140. I think that should be ok to play this game. My download and upload speeds are very high as well if that means anything. Even when i get to the character selection screen i'm always listed as "Excellent" for connectivity. So i know this latency/lag isn't on my end. Like i said in many other posts, i have played many other games and this is really the only one that has latency/lag issues to the point i can not pass certain content.

[Gumber]

Well my connection is far above what is required for this game. I see a lot of this being pointed @ the users connection. My ping is between 110-140. I think that should be ok to play this game. My download and upload speeds are very high as well if that means anything. Even when i get to the character selection screen i'm always listed as "Excellent" for connectivity. So i know this latency/lag isn't on my end. Like i said in many other posts, i have played many other games and this is really the only one that has latency/lag issues to the point i can not pass certain content.

Bandwidth means nothing in this case. 110 is not great latency, but it is very doable.
I have seen it done with 300 ping, you are bad, get over it.
Yes you have no problems with other games, they are easier. (In reaction time checks).
Cry more

[Rydia13]

Totally agree with you AdvancedWind... While I was learning Titan EX I used DF alot. Some people were expecting to actually win and I was like wait whaaaaa? Do you not realise that anyone that knows this fight will be in a PF group... DF is to learn and MAYBE win, very low probability. Get. Over. It. I paid for my Titan EX win due to horrific lag issues (which I cleared up with comcast), but then I went back and learned the fight in order to spam farm for a casters earring which I'm still after.

Point is, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Aka, quit the game or try harder. Don't give up.

[Verius_Nox]

"Go play other MMORPG"
Does a subscription based game (WoW clone, no less) have the luxury of sending players on the rival's way?
It's not the director's fault for making an action-oriented fight on a netcode that can't handle such action for half of the players, making it very frustrating and difficult for the wrong reasons?

Half is hyperbole. I highly doubt 50% of the playerbase is running around on terrible internet.

And yes, they do have the luxury. When World of Warcraft made changes that a good portion of players didn't like, they found a different game that suited their needs. It's how an MMO market works. You want the game to hand hold you and give you items without giving your 100%, there are other games that fits your needs. Just as this game fits the needs of players seeking some challenge. A fight that punishes you for someone dying early in the fight just makes the fight more meaningful to the people who need to improve in order to win. The Dark Souls paradigm. You die, you improve, you win, and you feel good about yourself improving enough to win.

So, I'm comfortable with fights that require all 8 players to give their full participation. Perhaps I'm biased because I made sure I had a stable connection before purchasing the game.