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    You wanna know why you have so many people failing that fight? Because the game did nothing to prepare you for it. Its the designers fault. If people had to learn half the mechanics that are needed for Titan you wouldn't have crappy players even at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolland View Post
    You wanna know why you have so many people failing that fight? Because the game did nothing to prepare you for it. Its the designers fault. If people had to learn half the mechanics that are needed for Titan you wouldn't have crappy players even at it.
    Exactly what mechanics does Titan have that you don't learn by the time you get to him? There's even a point in the storyline where it teaches you to avoid every single one of Titan's moves. HM just tacks on Mountain Buster and more bombs. EX just multiplies everything. I play this game with 100+ ping and 10~15 FPS and I can still dodge everything as long as I know what's coming ahead of time. What excuse does everyone else have? Yes, there are people who legitimately experience severe lag (most notably the fios users) and in my mind, they're excused. But I'm pretty sure that the majority of people who can't dodge don't have actual lag, and there are a lot of people who can't dodge.
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    Last edited by Lyrinn; 01-20-2014 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Exactly what mechanics does Titan have that you don't learn by the time you get to him?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    as long as I know what's coming ahead of time
    This one.
    I've cleared everything else without giving a damn about rotations. Just look at the cast bar and react, Eruption? Ok, stun. Slipstream? Ok, dodge. Everyone is running behind Ifrit? Guess I'll follow them.

    Not the case with Titan, though. Mountain Buster? Sorry mr tank, I didn't topped your HP. Weight of the Land? Sorry team, I didn't start running before it appeared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    This one.
    I've cleared everything else without giving a damn about rotations. Just look at the cast bar and react, Eruption? Ok, stun. Slipstream? Ok, dodge. Everyone is running behind Ifrit? Guess I'll follow them.

    Not the case with Titan, though.
    Except you can, provided you aren't lagging. The reason I have to know what's coming ahead of time is because I run slower than everyone else with my 10 FPS. I watch videos of people moving just as WotL shows up and they get out fine. If I try that, I have to sprint or I'm dead. The only real memorization you need for Titan are the bomb patterns. Anything else is if you're lagging or you have slow reactions. WotL may be tight but if you can't avoid Landslide, you (not you specifically, people in general) have problems.

    Ok, maybe Mountain Buster is troublesome for the tank/healer but you'd think people would learn after failing a few dozen times.
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    Last edited by Lyrinn; 01-20-2014 at 03:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolland View Post
    You wanna know why you have so many people failing that fight? Because the game did nothing to prepare you for it. Its the designers fault. If people had to learn half the mechanics that are needed for Titan you wouldn't have crappy players even at it.
    You mean dodging? Pretty sure plenty of fights pre Titan HM had things where you had to dodge. Just because they weren't punishing enough to force you to not fail them previously doesn't mean dodging glowing marks on the ground wasn't a thing everywhere else in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmian View Post
    You mean dodging? Pretty sure plenty of fights pre Titan HM had things where you had to dodge. Just because they weren't punishing enough to force you to not fail them previously doesn't mean dodging glowing marks on the ground wasn't a thing everywhere else in the game.
    Exactly. Even from an early level monsters start getting hard hitting avoidable attacks. I think they should add in a *You Fail* counter to dungeons, have it count each and every time someone in the party gets hit by avoidable damage and show a tally in party chat after bosses and the end of dungeons. Remember a similar addon for WoW.

    I imagine if they did many players would suddenly have a "Lag" problem.
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