Too many poor DPS

[Nihility]

since this game has slower paced battles i get time to watch dps when I'm playing tank roles and I have found a lot of dps do strange enough things that I can't even really understand what they're thinking.

Like tanking a single mob that only does frontal cones for AoE the black mage would cast one spell then run around for 5-6s then another spell then reposition again then one more spell etc etc
and this is not just picking out an oddball, this happens a lot.

[Sylve]

since this game has slower paced battles i get time to watch dps when I'm playing tank roles and I have found a lot of dps do strange enough things that I can't even really understand what they're thinking.

Like tanking a single mob that only does frontal cones for AoE the black mage would cast one spell then run around for 5-6s then another spell then reposition again then one more spell etc etc
and this is not just picking out an oddball, this happens a lot.

Whats weirder is the OffTank in Garuda refusing to take both sisters at once. "Oh nawww just let the DPS tank it next to the healers so its Downbursting the entire party and potentially wiping us if she lives long enough to Slipstream."

[Viridiana]

See that's the first post I see saying this is what do, just know the rotations of the fight and it's easy. No one says that, all I see is blah blah, so hard for dps, people falling off the edge, get all your relics out or you'll fail. x_x

There are a couple ways to handle all the fights that've been brought up.

Demon Wall: AOE LB the bees when they spawn, or LB one and kill the other, or save some dps cooldowns for when they spawn. . . Basically, if you can dodge their AOE and Demon Wall's at the same time, you'll eventually win. The strategy around release was the AOE LB, but it wasn't long before people started outgearing it to where they could kill the wall before the bees even spawn.
Ifrit HM: I honestly think the easiest strategy at this point is to burn one nail, then AOE LB the rest, unless you really want to spend a lot of time at the beginning building up the LB bar. That being said, there's more than enough time to melee LB3->burn x2->LB last nail, even if you have no caster to LB (though, honestly, that might be overgearing it a bit, not sure). Absolute worst case, you should be able to survive a 1-nail Hellfire with a tank LB.
Garuda HM: As long as the tanks (or dps tanks) can keep the sisters from cleaving the healers, you're pretty much golden. It's a rare occasion I see a party fail this dps check.
Titan HM: You can build LB to wherever you think you need it in the first phases. Having a melee LB3 makes heart go much smoother, as long as they know when to use it. Really, the big issue (as far as the dps check goes) with Titan is having all your members survive into heart phase. If you can do that, you shouldn't have much issue killing the heart in time. And the trick to getting people to survive is getting them to know the encounter (or someone calling it in voice chat, or macros, or something).

Basically, I haven't seen a dps check in game yet that is both tuned tightly and not trivialized by a well-timed LB.

[Rochetm]

since this game has slower paced battles i get time to watch dps when I'm playing tank roles and I have found a lot of dps do strange enough things that I can't even really understand what they're thinking.

Like tanking a single mob that only does frontal cones for AoE the black mage would cast one spell then run around for 5-6s then another spell then reposition again then one more spell etc etc
and this is not just picking out an oddball, this happens a lot.

In CT I have noticed DPS are in a big hurry to kill the adds on the first boss but then ignore them on all bosses after. Another fave of mine... bards dying on titan HM/EX. Can't figure out what it is about movement heavy fights that makes the most mobile job in the game fail over and over but I find it funny to watch.

[KoujiGeki]

oh god when you get to Extreme titan youre gonna have a bad day.

[Rochetm]

oh god when you get to Extreme titan youre gonna have a bad day.

Took me forever to find enough people to do it just once... doing it every week from now on /wrist

[Radxen]

Thanks for that info Viridiana. I tend to watch video guides so I can see what's going on only problem is when people start deviating from any certain strategy the fight doesn't go as planned so you have to improvise (sometimes alot), doesn't mean what they are doing is completely wrong just that it's hard for everyone else to follow if they haven't seen that particular strategy

[jars]

there's no way to evaluate your skill as a dps. people bemoan damage meters all the time, but they are an excellent tool to improve how you play.

[BHolland]

You wanna know why you have so many people failing that fight? Because the game did nothing to prepare you for it. Its the designers fault. If people had to learn half the mechanics that are needed for Titan you wouldn't have crappy players even at it.

[Jonjon]

. It's hard to be a bad tank.

You clearly have not run into PLDs who only spam Halone. I have run into far too many of those. They never used anything else, well maybe shield throw. Did a prae run and our WHM tanked Ultima, because the tank only used halone.