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Thread: T5 on PS3

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    One way is NOT faster than the other. I cannot beat the GCD with a mouseover macro, or a controller. the GCD is a static delay that NEVER changes. No matter if I'm cycling through targets or not, I am so adept at the controller I am constantly fighting the GCD spamming my cure. Claiming that just because YOU can't do something, doesnt mean there aren't more experienced people out there, blowing you away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    I didn't say that you being slower would lead to death. I said that I will always be faster. It is simply faster for to mouse over a target as I hit a button than it is for me to a) target someone and then hit a button or b) cycle through several people to reach the target I need to heal. It has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with physics.
    this is why we have macro's.... who said ps3 have to go thru all that just to heal? i think youre a bit confused on how healing on the ps3 actually is
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    This might lead to some pointless arguing, but...

    I main heal on controller (PC), and I can't think of a single death caused by me not being fast enough to change target due to the controller. Being faster to do on mouseover doesn't mean the game actually requires said speed. With proper party list positioning I can reach any player I want in the time it takes for godamn lustrate to cooldown.

    Could I be faster? Sure. Does the game require said speed. No.
    As I said in my other post, I'm not saying that you being slightly slower leads to deaths. In fact, I often am sitting there waiting for the GCD to be done so I can cast another heal. TBH, the GCD has killed people I would have otherwise had healed, and I'm pretty sure that Benediction/Lustrate fails equally as often whether you're on a controller or a PC. My point was merely that there are limitations to using the controller/PS3 that a PC player isn't going to encounter. I also can't shake the persistent suspicion that the reason why the GCD is so damn slow is an attempt to "equalize" things between PC and PS3, so that PS3/controller users are not inordinately penalized.

    I also didn't think Lustrate had a CD.
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    If you put all the players who take damage together on your party list, the delay caused by having to change targets is negligible. It only really matters when trying to do cross-alliance rezzes in CT (or when your DPS is taking unnecessary damage).

    In other words, the difference is only very salient when the rest of your party is failing.

    I think divebombs due to graphical latency is the biggest issue I have faced doing T5 on PS3. However, I've beaten it on PS3, so it's definitely possible. I have to be exiled to the hill, though, and I just announce if I was targeted, since the chance that I can dodge out of the "safe spot" is pretty low.
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    My static group has downed T5 multiple times. The other tank in my group plays on the PS3. In terms of hindrances in coil, the only problem that has really affected us is his lag sometimes (probably not the PS3) and he has some trouble avoiding divebombs. The real problem was the rendering of enemies in T4, but we just allow him to OT during that turn. Other than that, we've found a way around it and he does fine.
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    my fc is working on T5. The biggest issue is probably the servers. I play on PS3 and I've have not had any issues other than server side lag. That being said it also affects some of the people in my static, who are on PC, making them randomly dc or even crash. So no its not an issue with hardware but an issue with software. The PS4 version needs to get here asap but even then these people will still say that the PS4 load times are 0.0000032 seconds slower than the PC.
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    For PVE, Do not matter if you use controller vs KB/Mouse...

    For PVP is another Story. KB/Mouse will be superior to a controller. Two players with equal skills the KB/Mouse guy will destroy the controller guy no matter what.

    The players move a LOT during Pvp. only a Mouse will allow you aim your target really fast. The level speed and skills you need for PVP compared with PVE are two worlds separate.

    Unless square enix make mobs, can move in circles, zigzag over your screen, or make mobs can run and dodge attacks.. Then KB/Mouse is not mandatory for PVE.

    The only way i could say "No to ps3 players" in my party is.

    If during "X" Battle the Frames per second drop until 10 - 15 frames on the PS3 and the game become unplayeable, then here is where i could say. Sorry buddies is nothing personal but if you are playing 10 FPS your reaction times will end killing you or Killing us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Hilarious when a person in full i90 gear who has not killed twin yet says it's not holding them back....
    Having full i90 gear does not make Coil bosses die without practice. Esp when it is ONE PERSON!! I am assuming by your elitist remark that you know their entire team config and actual skill levels of the team enough to be able to figure out that that one ps3 user is the only reason they cannot down turn 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller.
    Except for the fact that a controller player on PS3 who is also using a keyboard does not have to cycle through anything to target a party member.

    If that player is the 5th person in my party list, F5 auto-targets that person. In my setup, my keyboard sits right on my lap. My hands holding my controller hover over my keyboard. I can pinky finger the F buttons without missing a beat or even dropping the controller, which IMO sounds faster than moving your mouse to the right person.

    Just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    Except for the fact that a controller player on PS3 who is also using a keyboard does not have to cycle through anything to target a party member.

    If that player is the 5th person in my party list, F5 auto-targets that person. In my setup, my keyboard sits right on my lap. My hands holding my controller hover over my keyboard. I can pinky finger the F buttons without missing a beat or even dropping the controller, which IMO sounds faster than moving your mouse to the right person.

    Just sayin...
    Depends on if you're a good healer or a bad healer. If my mouse is off in the Aether, then yeah, you'll be faster. The only advantage you might have is that moving and casting is likely easier for you. On the other hand, I've gotten pretty pro about being able to move while casting, and there are very few "instant" spells in the game that can be used.
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