T5 on PS3

[alhandra]

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the article you posted has no basis in fact and is purely the opinion of the writer, nice try tho

also, ps3 can play with mouse and keyboard. they always have been able to, most choose to use gamepads because ::gasp:: they are more effiecient!

[AdvancedWind]

the article you posted has no basis in fact and is purely the opinion of the writer, nice try tho

also, ps3 can play with mouse and keyboard. they always have been able to, most choose to use gamepads because ::gasp:: they are more effiecient!

Actually, no. You can plug in the keyboard for chatting, but can only play with the controller.

[LiadansWhisper]

i'd like to see one shred of evidence that would make this statement even half way true.

It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller. There's simply an unavoidable delay in the mechanics of cycling through players to find the right one. I don't even have to target a player to heal them.

But if we really want to get into the nitty-gritty, it's also faster for me to heal a player with mouseover macros than it is to use the standard "target and press a button."

[alhandra]

It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller. There's simply an unavoidable delay in the mechanics of cycling through players to find the right one. I don't even have to target a player to heal them.

But if we really want to get into the nitty-gritty, it's also faster for me to heal a player with mouseover macros than it is to use the standard "target and press a button."

bolded the important parts of your post, thanks for another opinion

i main a healer on ps3, i have yet to have a death on my watch due to ps3 limitations. i have done all content up to t4.

::quick edit::
inb4 "oh but this thread is about t5" its not my platform that has kept me out of t5

[LiadansWhisper]

bolded the important parts of your post, thanks for another opinion

i main a healer on ps3, i have yet to have a death on my watch due to ps3 limitations. i have done all content up to t4.

I didn't say that you being slower would lead to death. I said that I will always be faster. It is simply faster for to mouse over a target as I hit a button than it is for me to a) target someone and then hit a button or b) cycle through several people to reach the target I need to heal. It has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with physics.

[AdvancedWind]

It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller. There's simply an unavoidable delay in the mechanics of cycling through players to find the right one. I don't even have to target a player to heal them.

But if we really want to get into the nitty-gritty, it's also faster for me to heal a player with mouseover macros than it is to use the standard "target and press a button."

This might lead to some pointless arguing, but...

I main heal on controller (PC), and I can't think of a single death caused by me not being fast enough to change target due to the controller. Being faster to do on mouseover doesn't mean the game actually requires said speed. With proper party list positioning I can reach any player I want in the time it takes for godamn lustrate to cooldown.

Could I be faster? Sure. Does the game require said speed. No.

[LiadansWhisper]

This might lead to some pointless arguing, but...

I main heal on controller (PC), and I can't think of a single death caused by me not being fast enough to change target due to the controller. Being faster to do on mouseover doesn't mean the game actually requires said speed. With proper party list positioning I can reach any player I want in the time it takes for godamn lustrate to cooldown.

Could I be faster? Sure. Does the game require said speed. No.

As I said in my other post, I'm not saying that you being slightly slower leads to deaths. In fact, I often am sitting there waiting for the GCD to be done so I can cast another heal. TBH, the GCD has killed people I would have otherwise had healed, and I'm pretty sure that Benediction/Lustrate fails equally as often whether you're on a controller or a PC. My point was merely that there are limitations to using the controller/PS3 that a PC player isn't going to encounter. I also can't shake the persistent suspicion that the reason why the GCD is so damn slow is an attempt to "equalize" things between PC and PS3, so that PS3/controller users are not inordinately penalized.

I also didn't think Lustrate had a CD.

[JayCommon]

It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller.

Except for the fact that a controller player on PS3 who is also using a keyboard does not have to cycle through anything to target a party member.

If that player is the 5th person in my party list, F5 auto-targets that person. In my setup, my keyboard sits right on my lap. My hands holding my controller hover over my keyboard. I can pinky finger the F buttons without missing a beat or even dropping the controller, which IMO sounds faster than moving your mouse to the right person.

Just sayin...

[LiadansWhisper]

Except for the fact that a controller player on PS3 who is also using a keyboard does not have to cycle through anything to target a party member.

If that player is the 5th person in my party list, F5 auto-targets that person. In my setup, my keyboard sits right on my lap. My hands holding my controller hover over my keyboard. I can pinky finger the F buttons without missing a beat or even dropping the controller, which IMO sounds faster than moving your mouse to the right person.

Just sayin...

Depends on if you're a good healer or a bad healer. If my mouse is off in the Aether, then yeah, you'll be faster. The only advantage you might have is that moving and casting is likely easier for you. On the other hand, I've gotten pretty pro about being able to move while casting, and there are very few "instant" spells in the game that can be used.

[SirGazuntai]

The only reason I don't LIKE playing with PS3 players is communication. If they can type without taking 5 minutes to say "Yes" or they can jump on TS/Mumble on a laptop/PC next to them then I couldn't care less who I'm with.

There are many ways to get around the limitations of a controller.