T5 on PS3

[LiadansWhisper]

i'd like to see one shred of evidence that would make this statement even half way true.

It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller. There's simply an unavoidable delay in the mechanics of cycling through players to find the right one. I don't even have to target a player to heal them.

But if we really want to get into the nitty-gritty, it's also faster for me to heal a player with mouseover macros than it is to use the standard "target and press a button."

[alhandra]

It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller. There's simply an unavoidable delay in the mechanics of cycling through players to find the right one. I don't even have to target a player to heal them.

But if we really want to get into the nitty-gritty, it's also faster for me to heal a player with mouseover macros than it is to use the standard "target and press a button."

bolded the important parts of your post, thanks for another opinion

i main a healer on ps3, i have yet to have a death on my watch due to ps3 limitations. i have done all content up to t4.

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inb4 "oh but this thread is about t5" its not my platform that has kept me out of t5

[LiadansWhisper]

bolded the important parts of your post, thanks for another opinion

i main a healer on ps3, i have yet to have a death on my watch due to ps3 limitations. i have done all content up to t4.

I didn't say that you being slower would lead to death. I said that I will always be faster. It is simply faster for to mouse over a target as I hit a button than it is for me to a) target someone and then hit a button or b) cycle through several people to reach the target I need to heal. It has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with physics.

[alhandra]

I didn't say that you being slower would lead to death. I said that I will always be faster. It is simply faster for to mouse over a target as I hit a button than it is for me to a) target someone and then hit a button or b) cycle through several people to reach the target I need to heal. It has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with physics.

this is why we have macro's.... who said ps3 have to go thru all that just to heal? i think youre a bit confused on how healing on the ps3 actually is

[AdvancedWind]

It will always - always - be faster for me to get a heal onto a target with a mouseover macro than a PS3 player can manage on a controller. There's simply an unavoidable delay in the mechanics of cycling through players to find the right one. I don't even have to target a player to heal them.

But if we really want to get into the nitty-gritty, it's also faster for me to heal a player with mouseover macros than it is to use the standard "target and press a button."

This might lead to some pointless arguing, but...

I main heal on controller (PC), and I can't think of a single death caused by me not being fast enough to change target due to the controller. Being faster to do on mouseover doesn't mean the game actually requires said speed. With proper party list positioning I can reach any player I want in the time it takes for godamn lustrate to cooldown.

Could I be faster? Sure. Does the game require said speed. No.

[LiadansWhisper]

This might lead to some pointless arguing, but...

I main heal on controller (PC), and I can't think of a single death caused by me not being fast enough to change target due to the controller. Being faster to do on mouseover doesn't mean the game actually requires said speed. With proper party list positioning I can reach any player I want in the time it takes for godamn lustrate to cooldown.

Could I be faster? Sure. Does the game require said speed. No.

As I said in my other post, I'm not saying that you being slightly slower leads to deaths. In fact, I often am sitting there waiting for the GCD to be done so I can cast another heal. TBH, the GCD has killed people I would have otherwise had healed, and I'm pretty sure that Benediction/Lustrate fails equally as often whether you're on a controller or a PC. My point was merely that there are limitations to using the controller/PS3 that a PC player isn't going to encounter. I also can't shake the persistent suspicion that the reason why the GCD is so damn slow is an attempt to "equalize" things between PC and PS3, so that PS3/controller users are not inordinately penalized.

I also didn't think Lustrate had a CD.

[lujate]

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I also can't shake the persistent suspicion that the reason why the GCD is so damn slow is an attempt to "equalize" things between PC and PS3, so that PS3/controller users are not inordinately penalized.
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Interesting... I'd never thought of that.

[Tupsi]

Interesting... I'd never thought of that.

GCD is here to simply emulate a certain other MMO and the style of systems they went with (we didn't have GCD in 1.x and both were supported (KB/M and Gamepad)), almost no other MMO uses GCD and most support gamepads.

[AdvancedWind]

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It CDs very quickly just so you can't literally super spam. It's like half a second, even less. It does cooldown real quick.

Also, as you yourself said, you have to wait to heal again if you use mouseover. This means that you have no real tactical advantage at all by doing on the mouseover, other than it being what you're most comfortable with. Anyone playing on a controller can still effectivelly heal at the same speed and efficacy as you. How can this be called a "limitation", when it has zero impact on performance?

This does not affect a controller player in any negative way that could warrant not wanting him as the healer, or make him unable to heal with the same efficacy as a kb/m healer.

[Staris]

This does not affect a controller player in any negative way that could warrant not wanting him as the healer, or make him unable to heal with the same efficacy as a kb/m healer.

Ill say it again. Lustrate one target, heal another, pet heal a third. within a gcd (controller will do it slower and even milliseconds CAN matter).

Second. If your always waiting for your next GCD your doing it wrong. Timing the heals is very important to reduce overhealing and improve mana eff. For example.... holding a cast for a fraction of a GCD in order to heal immediately after a big hit (mountain buster, death sentence ect) can prevent deaths. If your just spamming on cooldown chasing GCDs your not performing optimally sorry. And within this switching targets FASTER via mouse over macroes can save lives when the GCD is held. Even when the GCD is not held... if you change your mind milliseconds before the next GCD... the target switching on a controller will cost you time, a MO will not.

Yes current content it is largely irrelevant because you can outgear and under perform and kill things, but on cutting edge content and non ideal group gear/comp (most people learning) every advantage helps.