Tanks Who Constantly Queue and Then Withdraw Trying to Get in Progress Instances

[Seig345]

right but thats not doing anything to you...... you dont have to click commence every time that pops.... and if that person wasnt queueing you still would be waiting all that time for someone looking for a full party anyways. So nothing changes except a little bit of spam of the window popping up.

At the same time, why was the person doing the withdrawing making love to the queue button? It's obvious the queue is trying to pair them with a fresh group. Instead of queueing up 5 times per minute, they could have just waited a few minutes then tried again to give the DF time to ship that party off with another player. Who's to say another player in the needed role wasn't queued but during one of those times when spammy got paired with the same group, the second player got diverted off to the next group waiting in line?

[Angiline]

At the same time, why was the person doing the withdrawing making love to the queue button? It's obvious the queue is trying to pair them with a fresh group. Instead of queueing up 5 times per minute, they could have just waited a few minutes then tried again to give the DF time to ship that party off with another player. Who's to say another player in the needed role wasn't queued but during one of those times when spammy got paired with the same group, the second player got diverted off to the next group waiting in line?

becaues you never know when someone is gonna drop from a dungeon and you want to be the first one in to that inprogress group.

You still have to pay attention every time it pops to see if it lasts longer than 10 sec so you can hit commence. Just because you hit caps lock doesn't change that fact.

Omg i have to look at my screen.... what ever shall i do... its the end of hte world god help us all!

[Doo]

Omg i have to look at my screen.... what ever shall i do... its the end of hte world god help us all!

Yes for 10mins or longer every time it goes into commence mode.

ok im done you are a fool.... do you not understand that you still woulud be waiting those 10min..... even if they didnt queue or drop.... the time frame is the same. you only have to look at your screen...... god sakes how much more of an idiot can you be.

What's so hard to understand? Yes both can take just as long but one makes it so you have to keep checking. For something that can take nearly an hour at times, it's a major inconvenience.

[Angiline]

Pot meet kettle...

Simply put, you exploit (yes I use this word, because that is what it is) the "in progress" check box when you repeatedly decline to fish for that 2/4 or 3/4 party. The duty finder was intended to quickly form groups from random people, not to give a few tanks a shortcut through the content to the parts they deem most worthy of their time. You do in fact rob time from those others who queued in good faith by forcing them to sit doing nothing but watching the "searching for replacement" message. In extreme cases even moving those people back in the queue as illustrated several times in this thread.

If you chose to ignore these facts, you are the problem, and deserve the punishment systems described in this thread to be put in place.

you do know that its more then tanks doing this??? i see DPS and heals doing this all the time. and untill SE says its against the rules or is an exploit its not. and it does not rob time from others you sir have no idea.... take the jumping in pvp SE came out and said almost instantly Dont do it its not intended we are fixing it..... but nothing with inprogress.... how come???? exactly cause nothing is wrong with doing it.

SE didn't say abusing the old glitch with the Chimera was against the rules, but once they found out about it, they laid down the rule rather quick. So... anything's free game until SE catches on and holds your hand with a TOS addendum?

exactly they came out with a statement about jumping in pvp almost instantly..... and still nothing with inprogress... hmmm?

What law explicitly says, someone from the internet may not poke you in the eye with a spork?

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal and/or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and tort law. There is, however, an additional criminal law category of assault consisting of an attempted but unsuccessful battery.

spork assault nets man prison
1 YEAR: Victim was stabbed with hybrid fork-spoon utensil.

Anchorage Daily News http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/558820.html/

Published: October 17th, 2008 01:54 AM
Last Modified: October 17th, 2008 07:53 AM

A man who stabbed another man with a spork, a combination fork and spoon, earlier this year in what police said was an attempted robbery was sentenced Thursday to a year in prison for felony assault.


shall i say owned?

[Angiline]

You can try, but you owned yourself.

That law, was not explicitly about spork poking. That was general assault, applied to an individual case.

That means, as I hoped you would understand, that just because a rule does not explicitly say something is disallowed, it still may be a violation of a broader rule.




This, could be applied to the situation of DF-ditching as it disrupts the game experience of other players, and disrupts the the instance servers normal functions.

did you not read the whole case law i gave a specific ruleing of sporking someone is against the law... come one you got to give me props for actually finding a case that involves a spork to the EYE none the less.

[Angiline]

You can try, but you owned yourself.

That law, was not explicitly about spork poking. That was general assault, applied to an individual case.

That means, as I hoped you would understand, that just because a rule does not explicitly say something is disallowed, it still may be a violation of a broader rule.




This, could be applied to the situation of DF-ditching as it disrupts the game experience of other players, and disrupts the the instance servers normal functions.


Who are all from your FC, or are in fact, you.

Also, trying to support your own arguments with an alternative account would count as violations of this prohibited action:

1. Impersonating another person or taking action that might reasonably be mistaken as the actions of another.

if you go back through the thread there has been several people that have supproted my view. and they are not cihard or my self.

[Amyas]

Pot meet kettle...

Simply put, you exploit (yes I use this word, because that is what it is) the "in progress" check box when you repeatedly decline to fish for that 2/4 or 3/4 party. The duty finder was intended to quickly form groups from random people, not to give a few tanks a shortcut through the content to the parts they deem most worthy of their time. You do in fact rob time from those others who queued in good faith by forcing them to sit doing nothing but watching the "searching for replacement" message. In extreme cases even moving those people back in the queue as illustrated several times in this thread.

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Again, a person choosing to withdraw is not affecting you. Can you prove its the same person? Can you prove its always tanks doing it? Can you prove your queue time is made longer because of another player needing to withdraw?

[Doo]

You do in fact rob time from those others who queued in good faith by forcing them to sit doing nothing but watching the "searching for replacement" message.

No idea why it's such a hard concept for them to understand.

[Fiorana]

No idea why it's such a hard concept for them to understand.

I don't think thats its that they don't understand, I think they just don't want to understand, FFXIV is thier "holy land" they can do whatever they want till someone from SE tells them otherwise. They know they can't act like this in the real world or they would get stuffed in a locker at school, so here they are living that life of griefing others that so often brought upon them in the real world and because its thier holy land they're defending it with all they have. Chances are they come from single parent households and don't really have much going for them so they don't play well with others.

I think part of the problem is with no strong male figure around to lay down the law they have no sense of responsibility which is why you see the behavior they are exhibiting right now, this is where they can be that warlord and try to take whatever they want. I feel kind sorry for them.

[Doo]

I think part of the problem is with no strong male figure around to lay down the law they have no sense of responsibility which is why you see the behavior they are exhibiting right now, this is where they can be that warlord and try to take whatever they want. I feel kind sorry for them.

I don't know what's going on but switching to another account and getting more aggressive and insulting is troubling.

first off you do not have to keep clicking it.... if someone with draws before the timer is up you dont need to click it.... you only need to click it before your timer is up. it if goes away before your timer is up it doesnt effect you. and it is not increasing your time....

you do not have to do anything extra at all.. you still only have to click commence 1 time. clicking anymore then that is your choice... clicking instantly when it pops every single time is your choice. thats on you no one else. No one is forcing you to click it every single time it instantly pops. You can wait 10 or 15 seconds to see if its gonna withdraw that way you only have to click your button 1 time. See your problem is solved you are welcome you can pay me in gil!