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  1. #81
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    Hiroradius's Avatar
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    Radius Braveheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I do agree with you on that part.

    But we also have to look at what's here now, because I do not see them making a new class until expansion time, new jobs yes, so to make another range/physical class, it would be taking archer/bard and giving them a soul crystal for probably ranger. Now by making ranger, they would basically take away the songs, probably give it elemental shots and increase the out dps (but as for a limit break what would they use? melee's lb, if they give them the healing one they are really just saying the don't like archers lol, and dropping the meteor? naaa, using the tank one? nope, althought it would be funny for them to get it.. so the lb would be an issue currently) and I think they while increase their damage/dps would need to adjust them so they need to become stationary, because if they could be mobile and pure dps.. it would upset the balance and all raids would then state they require a bard, ranger, melee for lb, and then 4th dps spot is optional (which probably would end up going to ranger for more dps lol).

    They need to be very careful on the next job they release so that they don't upset the balance.. which means I think there will probably be 2 or 3 released together, and make it so that they will balance out.

    Also, if you look at your chart another way.

    There currently are 2 piercing dps(1 range and 1 melee), 2 magic dps(both range), and 1 blunt dps, 0 slashing dps. So it would also make sense to bring out a slashing dps class (Dark Knight based off Gladiator, imo), a range blunt damage (gun user), and maybe a melee buffer/debuffer (dancer) or even 1 melee magic dps (Red Mage)

    By looking at it that way too, we can now use slashing dps with the dark knight, we can also get a 2nd option for support (dancer) to counter the bards who would switch to the range blunt damage (gun user) class, and a red mage for magic damage/elemental swords in melee range (and also slashing damage so maybe red mage instead of dark knight?)

    Now I still don't think archer 2nd job will be a gun user, it will still be another archer class.. ranger is the only one that makes sense (unless they want a pet class then go the hunter way) and still be piercing. Reason I just feel the corsair won't come out until expasion. I feel each city at expasnion will get a new base class. Corsair (or equivalent) from Limsa, Thief into ninja for Ul'dah. Geomancer style from Gridania will be next expansion.

    So only thinking of what is here now, and what they could turn the classes into is what I'm willing to expect. Gladiator does paladin right now, so dark knight or red mage imo are the next jobs for it (sword and shield.. people keep thinking the scythe, but remember scythe was ONLY in ff 11, ffx-2 was 2 handed sword, and the other final fantasy, 3, 4, and tatics were sword and shield),

    Maruder is a giant axe, into warrior, so giant axe class maybe Viking, or Geomancer?(I still think Geo though will be part of Gridania's new job/class expansion)

    Puglist is fist, soooo puppet master like 11? or dancer?(in all final fantasy's that use dancers who do damage, they fight with fists, fans, or purses, sooo), probably dancer because of the forms mechanic working with the dances.

    Lancer is spear, soo? (I honestly can't think of another spear class in final fantasy, so options here???)

    Archer is bow, so like I said, Ranger

    Con and THM both use staffs and rods, sooo time mage, green mage, classes like that? BUT I've been thinking, what about a 50 CON and 50 THM become a Sage? This way. the Sage class (which you would still need to spend your att points one way or another to specialize and probably do something else to give them a healing benefit or dps benefit.. like maybe if equipped a Staff you would be more healing focused, if you equipped a rod you would be more DPS focused.
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  2. #82
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    Sunah's Avatar
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    Sunah Yhisa
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    As many people mentioned before, it would be impossible to bring in a support class (dancer) unless they get rid of the 4 member party limit and go for the traditional 5. Unless the support class could buff the damage output of the other DD by at least 50% it wouldn't be beneficial in many cases.

    Don't get me wrong though I am a hard core support player (just not in this game for obvious reasons) and would love to play dancer if it came out, no matter how much it would suck haha.
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  3. #83
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    OmegaNovaios's Avatar
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    Omega Novaios
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rivest View Post
    Let me post something that is actually on topic, instead of discussing if a Scythe is a weapon or a farming tool.

    Musketeer would make sense since it would create a second ranged physical DPS.
    Of all the other type of roles there are two classes, except for the ranged physical DPS.

    Tank:
    Warrior
    Paladin

    Healer:
    White mage
    Scholar

    Melee DPS:
    Dragoon
    Monk

    Caster:
    Black Mage
    Summoner

    Ranged Physical:
    Bard
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    It would only be natural to have another ranged physical class/job in the game.
    Or we could get a Hybrid Role, which we have ZERO of.
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  4. #84
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroradius View Post
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    Except Bard right now is balanced with other DPS. Adding Ranger would make them the undisputed king of DPS (while being able to move while using every single skill).

    /shout LF4 Rangers for T1-10

    Limit break wouldn't even matter if Ranger does more damage than all other classes
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  5. #85
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    Rivest's Avatar
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    Lesley Jordan
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaNovaios View Post
    Or we could get a Hybrid Role, which we have ZERO of.
    Yoshi stated that this won't come for a very long time, so don't think it will come this patch.
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  6. #86
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    thenewzero's Avatar
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    Tyren Arkon
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 50
    If they did add Musketeer, I would assume Corsair would end up being the first Job.

    But if it came with a second Job (like Arcanist does), I would really love if they gave it Chemist (as a healer). Chemist's in FF Tactics used guns, and it would be nice to add another Healer, especially a non-magic based healer. They could have heals like "Tonic" and "Remedy", as well as having a "Mix" ability that would let you combine two of their "spells" to get a new effect.
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  7. #87
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    Mattlex's Avatar
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    Onion Lord
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Just a thought but does anyone think that perhaps Musketeer could be a new Tank class rather than a ranged DD role..

    It could work by using extremely high parry (seeing as the term parry is actully a fencing manoeuvre intended to deflect or block an incoming attack) levels using a Musketeer sword and perhaps some dodge/sidestep/counter abilities whilst utilising a handgun to generate hate.
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  8. #88
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    Omega Novaios
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattlex View Post
    Just a thought but does anyone think that perhaps Musketeer could be a new Tank class rather than a ranged DD role..

    It could work by using extremely high parry (seeing as the term parry is actully a fencing manoeuvre intended to deflect or block an incoming attack) levels using a Musketeer sword and perhaps some dodge/sidestep/counter abilities whilst utilising a handgun to generate hate.
    I'm pretty sure a Musketeer will ONLY use a gun and will not have a tool suitable to properly fence with. Which will make Musketeer a ranged class. I don't see it being a tank in the slightest form even with FFXIV's concept on altering previous FF jobs. COR tank would really be pushing it.
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  9. #89
    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Baron Eduardo
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    There should be a Viking job (FF3) that comes from Marauder class. Viking would be DPS.
    I'd also like to see a Mystic Knight (FF5) as a job from Gladiator class, also a DPS.

    Corsair/Musketter/Gunner should be a new class/job, another ranged non-caster DPS is definitely needed.

    Red Mage that can use all level I and II attack and healing spells from CNJ and THM would be very nice. Dualcastable of course, because that's a FF5 Red Mage ability.

    Thief/Ninja (new class/job) would be nice as well.

    And of course Blue Mage. I'd change my WAR to Blue Mage any day.
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  10. #90
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri View Post
    I may be jumping the gun here, but with the 2.2 update being centered around Maelstrom as a Key word and the Lord of Whorls being unleashed, I think our Sea Fairing Grand Company is going to share with us her secrets of the Corsair and Pirate/Buccaneer. Pirates plague the area around Limsa Lominsa and pirates who have given up their ways are the farmers of various locations across La Noscea.

    With that, the hints for the update so far...Am I too far off to assume the possibility of the Sea Fairing Jobs and Classes making an appearance?
    Musketeer will come, no doubt about it. It is likely to be among the classes/jobs being introduced since: 1) everything is there already, 2) we have two melee classes and only 1 physical damage ranged class, 3) it's been highly requested by the players.

    However, it has been said many times that there are no plans to introduce this type of content for the time being. New classes and jobs and new egi for summoners will both only be introduced once the level cap (not ilvl) is raised, which they also said is only very likely to happen with a new expansion, not a patch to the current game.
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