There shouldn't be a Myth cap because.....

[Axidrain]

Funny... 'Cause when I go around inspecting people the vast majority of the i90 gear I see is Myth and not coil... Funny indeed.

yeah, and that just shows how much loot u get from running coil now eh?

[Duuude007]

oookay then. if u guys think that lockouts are good for the game then i guess more power to u. personally i think its just a weak mechanic put into the game and under utilizes the ability of being able to level every class. i have 7 other classes with just i70 equips for the past 3 months. so much for being able to play as everything on one character eh?

So you are judging this based on 2 raids that both provide you with the average of 1 drop a week as barring you from content?

You know, let's ignore for a moment, the fact that you can get (on average) 2 items a week from raids, and an average of another item a week from mythology tomes.

Seeing that a competent player can do pretty much anything in 2.1 using only philosophy-purchased gear(darklight, crafted i70, relic) and infinite droprate content (ulima HM, EX primal accessories), your point is moot.

[Axidrain]

So you are judging this based on 2 raids that both provide you with the average of 1 drop a week as barring you from content?

You know, let's ignore for a moment, the fact that you can get (on average) 2 items a week from raids, and an average of another item a week from mythology tomes.

Seeing that a competent player can do pretty much anything in 2.1 using only philosophy-purchased gear(darklight, crafted i70, relic) and infinite droprate content (ulima HM, EX primal accessories), your point is moot.

so u like to play undergeared with no rewards? try going into em/t4 with ur ilvl 70 dps. good luck. wait. just go in as any class with i70. lol

OR it could mean that there are still many players out there unable to defeat all they turn of coil.... and dont care about BIS?

that kinda goes both ways doesnt it?

[RoninDarkchild]

yeah, and that just shows how much loot u get from running coil now eh?

OR it could mean that there are still many players out there unable to defeat all the turns of coil.... and dont care about BIS?

[Duuude007]

Let's go one step further and assume you have all the time in the world to get items from current content.

In 1 week you are not barred from earning:

• i80 relics for every job
• 3 i90 and 2 i80 accessories for every job
• i70 DL or crafted gear for every job to fill all other slots.
• 1 new i90 myth piece (or half of a body, pants, zenith)
• 1 new i80 CT piece
• 1 new i90 EX weapon
• Avg. 1 new i90 Coil piece

Now seriously, what are you whining about, again?

[Caraway]

yeah, and that just shows how much loot u get from running coil now eh?

Considering this post is about removing the Myth limit and I just pointed out that there are people 100% Myth geared without a single EX Primal or Allagan piece means that there is plenty of gear coming from the myth vendor in the amount of time this game has been launched as 2.0

If you're 100% Myth geared you're i90, your options for upgrades at that point are extremely minimal and are honestly better served going towards your alts.

So lookit that... Your alts are being geared with i80/90 stuff now!

[Junpei]

try going into em/t4 with ur ilvl 70 dps. good luck. wait. just go in as any class with i70. lol

Hey I resent that statement! My group cleared T4 of Coil in the first week of release and we did it in i70 with NQ relics on the whole team! I did it again this week on my alt to help out some friends (in full i70 as a BLM with an NQ relic and a demagogue ring too!)

Quit being bad!

[Axidrain]

Considering this post is about removing the Myth limit and I just pointed out that there are people 100% Myth geared without a single EX Primal or Allagan piece means that there is plenty of gear coming from the myth vendor in the amount of time this game has been launched as 2.0

If you're 100% Myth geared you're i90, your options for upgrades at that poi....!

well if u guys were paying attention, my argument is more towards the whole lockout model rather than just primarily the myth cap. i could have necroposted in the other lockout complaint threads but hey this was on the front page.

Hey I resent that statement! My group cleared T4 of Coil in the first week of release and we did it in i70 with NQ relics on the whole team! I did it again this week on my alt to help out some friends (in full i70 as a BLM with an NQ relic and a demagogue ring too!)

Quit being bad!

maybe ur just too good.

[Awake]

I would if 75% of the tanks would learn how to dodge wicked wheel.

Dear god....

[Caraway]

well if u guys were paying attention, my argument is more towards the whole lockout model rather than just primarily the myth cap. i could have necroposted in the other lockout complaint threads but hey this was on the front page.

You cannot have a sustainable MMO without gating. Full stop. If you play MMOs it's something you're going to have to get used to. As people have explained here (with numbers!) you have things pretty darn good here compared to most AAA MMOs where the primary gating mechanism is the RNG combined with limited amount of loot distributed amongst a large group of players.