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    Axidrain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\

    It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.
    yeah, but do u always get the loot? 14 weeks no bard feet here. i got the hands tho, just the hands :3. feels very familiar with rng % drops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Blaming the drop mismatch on your unwillingness to gear up multiple classes is... kind of petty, don't you think?

    The drop falling to the ground because "everybody" who can use it already has, is still very uncommon, relatively speaking.
    uh. there are 7 other people in the party? with multiple sub classes too? hello?
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    Ronin Woofcub
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    yeah, but do u always get the loot? 14 weeks no bard feet here. i got the hands tho, just the hands :3. feels very familiar with rng % drops.
    Now imagine if the gear itself was only 1-5% drop rate and you were doing coil every single day and 6 months later you had nothing!
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    uh. there are 7 other people in the party? with multiple sub classes too? hello?
    Yes, which means if everyone has every class, everybody gains an average of 1 drop a week. If someone doesn't get a drop, someone else is getting 2.
    It averages out to 1 per person, per week.

    Based on your argument that coil should be repeatable, you would be looking at the rebalancing of this mechanic causing the current 100% droprate being reduced, probably significantly.
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 01-13-2014 at 06:58 PM.

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    Bisera Cecilina
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild View Post
    No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Youre STILL getting 8 actually real gear drops every single week.

    Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\
    Try doing Salvage 7 days a week, and no drop for ANYONE in 3 months...

    It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.
    /shudders
    I remember Salvage and Dynamis... and if you had new players to Dynamis or your alliance wasn't good enough....
    ...death... so much death and maybe even deleveling for some people....
    Yeah, I'll take what we have now over Dynamis and Salvage the Fire Crystals of spite. =_=;;
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    Last edited by Anapingofness; 01-13-2014 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anapingofness View Post
    /shudders
    I remember Salvage and Dynamis... and if you had new players to Dynamis or your alliance wasn't good enough....
    ...death... so much death and maybe even deleveling for some people....
    Yeah, I'll take what we have now over Dynamis and Salvage the Fire Crystals of spite. =_=;;
    In 10 years of killing Tiamat off and on, I never once witnessed first hand those shoes dropping. Only that damn Fire Crystal! lol And only saw a Ridill drop once in all that time. No wonder people were fooled into thinking the content was ENDLESS!!! You were doing the same fight 5 years later XD
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    Coil is rediculous on LOOT. You can only run the Turns 1 time per week and if your loot does not come up...sorry...please come back and play some more next week...how stupid. I know people that have been running this since the beginning of the game almost and still cannot get the Healer piece they need. It is enough already with the holding players back. This is why I am in no rush to run Coils at the moment.
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

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    Devilray Asura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    Coil is rediculous on LOOT. You can only run the Turns 1 time per week and if your loot does not come up...sorry...please come back and play some more next week...how stupid. I know people that have been running this since the beginning of the game almost and still cannot get the Healer piece they need. It is enough already with the holding players back. This is why I am in no rush to run Coils at the moment.
    WoW raids were one time a week lockout during WotLK as well. I do not know why people like you are complaining. Spoiled? You are already getting the weekly/daily rewards from spamming dungeons just like WoW's dungeon system, and the raid locks out in a week just like it does or did in WoW when I played it. I do not see why people have become even more whiny about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    WoW raids were one time a week lockout during WotLK as well. I do not know why people like you are complaining. Spoiled? You are already getting the weekly/daily rewards from spamming dungeons just like WoW's dungeon system, and the raid locks out in a week just like it does or did in WoW when I played it. I do not see why people have become even more whiny about it.
    if i wanted to play wow, i would've played wow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    If you have a group that consistently clears t1 thru t5 each week, that means that the party is guaranteed 8 drops for the 8 people.

    This is WAY better than spamming the same content 10 times for 8 people to witness 8 chests drop 1 item 10% of the time.
    yeah this argument would be relevant 2 months ago. but not anymore. too many people are stuck with nothing to do after clearing coil/capping myth now. its no longer a vocal minority that's complaining about this. on another note. andddd of course sometime u dont get anything because none of ur class items dropped that week. wheee!!
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    Last edited by Axidrain; 01-13-2014 at 06:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    if i wanted to play wow, i would've played wow.
    I am not saying WoW's system is a good thing. I am completely against the whole Myth/welfare system. But people are asking for an even more CASUAL system. That is just asking for too much if you ask me. Should be scrapped and just have Coil and DL gear (primal ex loot) only.
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    Asakura Ny'en
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    I am not saying WoW's system is a good thing. I am completely against the whole Myth/welfare system. But people are asking for an even more CASUAL system. That is just asking for too much if you ask me. Should be scrapped and just have Coil and DL gear (primal ex loot) only.
    No. Just no. I've been doing Coil since mid-October, and I saw a GRAND TOTAL of FOUR Healer drops, of which I only got two, and one of the two is actually useless for me. Don't make it even worse for me than it already is.
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