There shouldn't be a Myth cap because.....

[RoninDarkchild]

coil says hello

No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Youre STILL getting 8 actually real gear drops every single week.

Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\
Try doing Salvage 7 days a week, and no drop for ANYONE in 3 months...

It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.

[Axidrain]

No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\

It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.

yeah, but do u always get the loot? 14 weeks no bard feet here. i got the hands tho, just the hands :3. feels very familiar with rng % drops.

Blaming the drop mismatch on your unwillingness to gear up multiple classes is... kind of petty, don't you think?

The drop falling to the ground because "everybody" who can use it already has, is still very uncommon, relatively speaking.

uh. there are 7 other people in the party? with multiple sub classes too? hello?

[RoninDarkchild]

yeah, but do u always get the loot? 14 weeks no bard feet here. i got the hands tho, just the hands :3. feels very familiar with rng % drops.

Now imagine if the gear itself was only 1-5% drop rate and you were doing coil every single day and 6 months later you had nothing!

[Duuude007]

uh. there are 7 other people in the party? with multiple sub classes too? hello?

Yes, which means if everyone has every class, everybody gains an average of 1 drop a week. If someone doesn't get a drop, someone else is getting 2.
It averages out to 1 per person, per week.

Based on your argument that coil should be repeatable, you would be looking at the rebalancing of this mechanic causing the current 100% droprate being reduced, probably significantly.

[Axidrain]

Yes, which means if everyone has every class, everybody gains an average of 1 drop a week. If someone doesn't get a drop, someone else is getting 2.
It averages out to 1 per person, per week.

oookay then. if u guys think that lockouts are good for the game then i guess more power to u. personally i think its just a weak mechanic put into the game and under utilizes the ability of being able to level every class. i have 7 other classes with just i70 equips for the past 3 months. so much for being able to play as everything on one character eh?

[Duuude007]

oookay then. if u guys think that lockouts are good for the game then i guess more power to u. personally i think its just a weak mechanic put into the game and under utilizes the ability of being able to level every class. i have 7 other classes with just i70 equips for the past 3 months. so much for being able to play as everything on one character eh?

So you are judging this based on 2 raids that both provide you with the average of 1 drop a week as barring you from content?

You know, let's ignore for a moment, the fact that you can get (on average) 2 items a week from raids, and an average of another item a week from mythology tomes.

Seeing that a competent player can do pretty much anything in 2.1 using only philosophy-purchased gear(darklight, crafted i70, relic) and infinite droprate content (ulima HM, EX primal accessories), your point is moot.

[Axidrain]

So you are judging this based on 2 raids that both provide you with the average of 1 drop a week as barring you from content?

You know, let's ignore for a moment, the fact that you can get (on average) 2 items a week from raids, and an average of another item a week from mythology tomes.

Seeing that a competent player can do pretty much anything in 2.1 using only philosophy-purchased gear(darklight, crafted i70, relic) and infinite droprate content (ulima HM, EX primal accessories), your point is moot.

so u like to play undergeared with no rewards? try going into em/t4 with ur ilvl 70 dps. good luck. wait. just go in as any class with i70. lol

OR it could mean that there are still many players out there unable to defeat all they turn of coil.... and dont care about BIS?

that kinda goes both ways doesnt it?

[Junpei]

try going into em/t4 with ur ilvl 70 dps. good luck. wait. just go in as any class with i70. lol

Hey I resent that statement! My group cleared T4 of Coil in the first week of release and we did it in i70 with NQ relics on the whole team! I did it again this week on my alt to help out some friends (in full i70 as a BLM with an NQ relic and a demagogue ring too!)

Quit being bad!

[Anapingofness]

No... actually it doesnt say hello.... because at the end of the day you are STILL 100% guaranteed "something" for a job.... Youre STILL getting 8 actually real gear drops every single week.

Coil would say "hello" If you had a 1% chance of getting ANY gear, and only got crafting material 99% of the other times... or better yet... a Fire Crystal :-\
Try doing Salvage 7 days a week, and no drop for ANYONE in 3 months...

It would be like doing Dynamis.. .and not getting any AF the entire run.

/shudders
I remember Salvage and Dynamis... and if you had new players to Dynamis or your alliance wasn't good enough....
...death... so much death and maybe even deleveling for some people....
Yeah, I'll take what we have now over Dynamis and Salvage the Fire Crystals of spite. =_=;;

[RoninDarkchild]

/shudders
I remember Salvage and Dynamis... and if you had new players to Dynamis or your alliance wasn't good enough....
...death... so much death and maybe even deleveling for some people....
Yeah, I'll take what we have now over Dynamis and Salvage the Fire Crystals of spite. =_=;;

In 10 years of killing Tiamat off and on, I never once witnessed first hand those shoes dropping. Only that damn Fire Crystal! lol And only saw a Ridill drop once in all that time. No wonder people were fooled into thinking the content was ENDLESS!!! You were doing the same fight 5 years later XD