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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Yes, well that is one of the WORST parts of that game.

    Every immature (whether young or old) idiot humps that stupid number.

    You don't need to know anything about gaming, mmorpgs, your class... or really anything about the world- the entire effort at building a virtual world and having virtual systems is all boiled down to one single number.

    What is that number called? Iscore - AKA THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.
    Similarly to character level?

    Please ApolloGenX, please please please tank Coil in full ilvl 50 gear, and teach me the ways of Skill > Gear. I want to learn from you. Infact, I'll whip out my WHM AF1 and heal you for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZDamned View Post
    Similarly to character level?

    Please ApolloGenX, please please please tank Coil in full ilvl 50 gear, and teach me the ways of Skill > Gear. I want to learn from you. Infact, I'll whip out my WHM AF1 and heal you for it!
    I would rather tank Coil in ilevel 50 gear with an AF1 whm healing me while laughing about it than waste 10 minutes of my life with an Ilevel 90 geared loud mouthed idiot.

    But that's just me... I prefer the company of quality people over some stupid game assigned gear number. I find that usually it makes for a more pleasant experience... we can get better gear- your stuck with your horrible attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    I would rather tank Coil in ilevel 50 gear with an AF1 whm healing me while laughing about it than waste 10 minutes of my life with an Ilevel 90 geared loud mouthed idiot.
    To many, you're the one being "that guy". ilvl has a purpose, and a good one at that, it's players that warp and distort it into what you believe it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    To many, you're the one being "that guy". ilvl has a purpose, and a good one at that, it's players that warp and distort it into what you believe it is.
    Well, here's the deal- I don't go run with strangers knowing that I am not ready for content. Content has gear requirements... that's not a huge deal... that's one way to tell if someone can handle content- that is not the same as judging them as a player or person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Well, here's the deal- I don't go run with strangers knowing that I am not ready for content. Content has gear requirements... that's not a huge deal... that's one way to tell if someone can handle content- that is not the same as judging them as a player or person.
    And? I won't do things I don't feel i'm prepared for either. That doesn't change the fact you bashed a simple number on your gear that's actually useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    And? I won't do things I don't feel i'm prepared for either. That doesn't change the fact you bashed a simple number on your gear that's actually useful.
    People got along just fine before Iscores. There are other ways of checking gear without such an obvious and overly simplified mechanic.

    In fact, back in the "good old days" there were actually different stat requirements for different encounters. I guess that is too complicated for the target audience in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    People got along just fine before Iscores. There are other ways of checking gear without such an obvious and overly simplified mechanic.

    In fact, back in the "good old days" there were actually different stat requirements for different encounters. I guess that is too complicated for the target audience in this case.
    Still doesn't change that the number is useful. Part of the problem with gear that you can't tell if is an upgrade or not, is just that. Not all players play to play the numbers game, they want "is it better or not". For the gear that is better for different encounters, it becomes a burden, and then people start requiring you to have multiple sets for different fights... oh this is going to the same place YOU went with ilvl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    I would rather tank Coil in ilevel 50 gear with an AF1 whm healing me while laughing about it than waste 10 minutes of my life with an Ilevel 90 geared loud mouthed idiot.

    But that's just me... I prefer the company of quality people over some stupid game assigned gear number. I find that usually it makes for a more pleasant experience... we can get better gear- your stuck with your horrible attitude.
    So... just to be clear:

    Clearing Coil in 10(Huh? Turn 1, ALL turns?) minutes = Waste of Life.

    Failing the gear check miserably, and wiping over and over = Would rather do.


    Ok, I think I understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZDamned View Post
    So... just to be clear:

    Clearing Coil in 10(Huh? Turn 1, ALL turns?) minutes = Waste of Life.

    Failing the gear check miserably, and wiping over and over = Would rather do.


    Ok, I think I understand.
    Unfortunately, I doubt that you do. But to each his/her own.
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