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  1. #11
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    Blazer's Avatar
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    Blazer Willz
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiphanyCheshire View Post
    I'll never understand why people buy an mmo, pay for said mmo, and then expect there to be loads of solo content. It's an online game. The point is to play with other people. Joining a free company that wants to do the group content is a good first step. If you don't like this aspect of the game then this genre is probably not for you. This isn't meant to sound nasty, but it's the truth. There's plenty of single player rpg's out there that will offer the type of enjoyment that you may be looking for.
    Playing with other people is great. Being locked out of content or only having a day or 2 of content a week (and paying for it) is not. People need other things to do besides sit in town and "queue up". There needs to be something you can work towards on your own.
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  2. #12
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    Jubez187's Avatar
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    Arant Aleite
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    Playing with other people is great. Being locked out of content or only having a day or 2 of content a week (and paying for it) is not. People need other things to do besides sit in town and "queue up". There needs to be something you can work towards on your own.
    You can craft, I guess. Also, to say "a day or 2 of content" a week is ridiculous. I'm sorry but you're playing too much if you're capping Myth in a day. You might hate the principle of lock-outs in general, and that's fine. But hyperboles such as "a day or 2 of content" are pretty ridiculous. Also, this is pretty irrelevant to the OP who is saying his only choices are: wipe in the DF, or be barred from experienced-required PFs (which would be alleviated had he joined a friendly FC). I do, however, agree that there needs to be more to do in the end-game as far as the open world goes.
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  3. #13
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Here's a fun thought: "How did the experienced people become experienced?" What if you did what they did and formed your own group of inexperienced people? *le gasp*
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  4. #14
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    Buster Posey
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by EpiphanyCheshire View Post
    This isn't meant to sound nasty, but it's the truth. There's plenty of single player rpg's out there that will offer the type of enjoyment that you may be looking for.
    I think playing a mmo is a better bargain for soloists at least that's how one explained to me awhile back. 50 bucks a game vs 15 dollars a month. It's like going to a buffet (mmo) or a nice restaurant.
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  5. #15
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    Here's a fun thought: "How did the experienced people become experienced?" What if you did what they did and formed your own group of inexperienced people? *le gasp*
    Seriously. If there are a lot of people being left out like this, throw it up on party finder and you'll get yourself a group of people who want to learn.
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  6. #16
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    Here's a fun thought: "How did the experienced people become experienced?" What if you did what they did and formed your own group of inexperienced people? *le gasp*
    This, after all the painful pugging and painstaking networking with other progression minded players I went through to get all the content done it is honestly insulting to see accusations like in the OP. We look for experienced people because we all did our time in hell, do yours too and don't look for a carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiphanyCheshire View Post
    I'll never understand why people buy an mmo, pay for said mmo, and then expect there to be loads of solo content. It's an online game. The point is to play with other people.
    Oh, this worn out idea.

    FFXIV is a throw-back to the group-or-die games that have largely disappeared from the face of the planet (thank God), where your ability to progress and even reach level cap is gated by the need to find others needing to do the same; FFXI abandoned this model for the better a long time ago now, Tanaka saw this and that was what he did in V1, sadly Yoshi decided to regress into the dark ages with V2 in this respect.

    Grouping is fine, forced-grouping to unlock core content (banks, mounts, etc.) and simply to reach the level-cap is so last century. There are many ways to 'play with other players' that avoid hard gating.

    Hint: the 'G' in MMORPG doesn't stand for GROUP!
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  8. #18
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    Kyriea Nova
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    Odin
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    Tbh I've given up playing because people don't accept new players and slate you for learning content. I don't have time to put up with arrogant children in a game I play to chill out after work.

    Forced grouping worked fine in older MMO's, there is no excuse for players attitudes being bad.
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  9. #19
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    Olyver West
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    Mateus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    Every now and then I get some toxic guy,
    I mentally stab people every time I see this word.

    -__-
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyno View Post
    I mentally stab people every time I see this word.

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    Maybe they were covered in radioactive waste? o.O
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