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    Scamperoo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiphanyCheshire View Post
    I'll never understand why people buy an mmo, pay for said mmo, and then expect there to be loads of solo content. It's an online game. The point is to play with other people. Joining a free company that wants to do the group content is a good first step. If you don't like this aspect of the game then this genre is probably not for you. This isn't meant to sound nasty, but it's the truth. There's plenty of single player rpg's out there that will offer the type of enjoyment that you may be looking for.
    This is just an excuse, I'm sorry that you in your own words, have little understanding of an MMO, I have been playing them for 11 years now and a successful mmo caters to all players at all times.
    Sometimes I just don't want to party up with people, don't want to run scripted content and just like to roam around doing my thing. If you want to run dungeons all day every day, that's ok, if the epitome of great content is joining an FC and doing extreme whatever that's ok too. The point isn't just to play with people, it's to have fun and be able to progress with the content irrespective of how you want to play the game.

    I'll never understand people with the hive mentality, you are with us and do what we do or there is no room for you in this game. Can you imagine what this game would be like without people who do "other" content? Lifeless and empty.
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scamperoo View Post
    This is just an excuse, I'm sorry that you in your own words, have little understanding of an MMO, I have been playing them for 11 years now and a successful mmo caters to all players at all times.
    A successful mmo/game makes money.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scamperoo View Post
    This is just an excuse, I'm sorry that you in your own words, have little understanding of an MMO, I have been playing them for 11 years now and a successful mmo caters to all players at all times.
    You say you played MMOs for 11 years, means your main MMO was probably WoW, which was the start of when "solo MMOs" started croping up because prior to WoW most MMOs weren't solo based nor did they "cater to everyone", you either meshed well with the MMO or you simply didn't play MMOs because MMO was a niche genre barely 11 years ago.

    As someone said, successful MMOs were ones that made money and didn't die off within a year of launch. "Catering to everyone" simply can't happen when a developer explicitly states his intention is to cater to one type of playerbase mostly, that creates an imbalance of content concepts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You say you played MMOs for 11 years, means your main MMO was probably WoW, which was the start of when "solo MMOs" started croping up because prior to WoW most MMOs weren't solo based nor did they "cater to everyone", you either meshed well with the MMO or you simply didn't play MMOs because MMO was a niche genre barely 11 years ago.

    As someone said, successful MMOs were ones that made money and didn't die off within a year of launch. "Catering to everyone" simply can't happen when a developer explicitly states his intention is to cater to one type of playerbase mostly, that creates an imbalance of content concepts.
    You would be wrong then, my mmo of choice was FFXI, catering to gatherers, crafters, people who play in small groups, those who just generally like to be around real people but not necessarily grouping with them, social players, role players and the like seem to be person non grata in your sort of game.
    Just because YOU wish this game would exclude anyone you deem unworthy to play an mmo doesn't mean that Squeenix feels the same way.

    This isn't 11 years ago everything is online and people are paying monthly to be entertained, the only way to justify this investment is to cater to everyone. No matter how much you want to keep the genre pure.
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    Mourns Stormbringer
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    I have played alot of mmo's over the years from 1997-present. Some of most fun I have had PVE wise was in Asherons Call one. I loved the death penalties. I recall having to carry high value items so you didnt lose all your good gear. I recall asking high lvl mages with healing help me get in some acid pits I lost a few corpses in. That was fun seeing them cast life magic spells on me while I was getting jacked. I recall DAoC was best for PvP. Oh the realm battles wow is all I can say and not WoW. But all in all I love FF14 ARR it is well made game. I love the ability of having one guy that can do any job. I am gearing up my 3rd job for coil soon be i80 or better like my other two jobs.
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    I hit 50 just a few weeks ago and feel like I'm making decent progress in dungeons. All decked out in DL gear and have two myth pieces. I'm slowly making my way through the relic quest and have Titan left to do. I expect to be at this a long time but that is part of the challenge.

    Most of the parties I've joined have gotten things done, even with fresh 50s. My only beef is my surplus of philosophy tomes. I do wish there was a conversion process to myth. Or dailies that awarded a small amount of myth. I do like Ryios' ideas though. You do take a hit if you aren't playing consistently and miss out of the weekly cap.
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    Last edited by Anandra; 01-07-2014 at 05:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiphanyCheshire View Post
    I'll never understand why people buy an mmo, pay for said mmo, and then expect there to be loads of solo content. It's an online game. The point is to play with other people. Joining a free company that wants to do the group content is a good first step. If you don't like this aspect of the game then this genre is probably not for you. This isn't meant to sound nasty, but it's the truth. There's plenty of single player rpg's out there that will offer the type of enjoyment that you may be looking for.
    They don't know what an MMORPG really implies when they buy it. They also don't know what it implies when they complain about it after playing it. It's rather sad. Not so much that they're among us, but rather the fact that they can't discern whether or not something is how it's supposed to be (i.e. what an MMORPG is).
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    Vladislav Bahamut
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiphanyCheshire View Post
    I'll never understand why people buy an mmo, pay for said mmo, and then expect there to be loads of solo content. It's an online game. The point is to play with other people. Joining a free company that wants to do the group content is a good first step. If you don't like this aspect of the game then this genre is probably not for you. This isn't meant to sound nasty, but it's the truth. There's plenty of single player rpg's out there that will offer the type of enjoyment that you may be looking for.
    Thing is ---> there many of FF series fans plays FFXIV , they play because they <3 Final Fantasy and not MMO . I am myself FF series fan so played every FF game , played FFXI many years and played 1.0 , and playing FFXIV:ARR atm , but here the thing is i never played any other MMO , only XI & XIV - because this is just not mine . XI & XIV is part of FF world , even if those are MMO , so FF fans will have to deal with it somehow .
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiphanyCheshire View Post
    I'll never understand why people buy an mmo, pay for said mmo, and then expect there to be loads of solo content. It's an online game. The point is to play with other people. Joining a free company that wants to do the group content is a good first step. If you don't like this aspect of the game then this genre is probably not for you. This isn't meant to sound nasty, but it's the truth. There's plenty of single player rpg's out there that will offer the type of enjoyment that you may be looking for.
    Is 14 the first/only MMO you've ever played? Many others, including beginning mmos have had viable solo content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Is 14 the first/only MMO you've ever played? Many others, including beginning mmos have had viable solo content.
    You... you do know your replying to someone from 11 years ago...
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