you broke fates... why?

[Mailstrum]

i use to be able to lvl a class from 1-50 in about 2 days doing fates which was nice. its taken 3 days just to go from 45-50 on my whm because que times for duneongs take for ever. i do the roulette for hte bonus thats good xp but doing the roulette and getting lvl 15 dungeon sucks when you do not have hte bonus. So i que for AV which takes about 30-35 min before the queue pops then i get stuck in groups where the tank cant move away from 100 tonz swing. and we wipe for 30min on that boss.... this is not an effecent way to lvl.

[jomoru]

Beyond the daily bonus, the reward doesn't make up for it. Better to select the dungeon in your level range after the roulette is done. Also, I've been given Garuda, so yeah, no.

People do get higher level stuff, but it seems the lowest level dungeons get hit alot. So if you only do a roulette a day, and story/class quests it would be pretty easy to hit 50 and be pretty clueless about rotation and so on.

[Dale]

Buffing dungeon exp was very welcoming, and I applaud you for that... but why destroy the variety in levelling?

"A FATE's difficulty will now be determined by the number of players who participated in the previous"

This is a stupid change that needs to be reverted... I can't do fates because last time it spawned there was 30 people? now my 10-15 players are gonna die..

3 full-groups couldn't even kill the adds before courl king in South Shroud because each add was taking way too long to kill and were dealing damage equivalent to a boss.

revert your FATE changes to 2.0 please.

Fates were already broken. They were just mindless spams that gave you copious amounts of experience. One of the worst and most boring ways to level I have ever seen on a video game.

[Seig345]

You've got people who prefer dungeons, people who prefer fates, and people who do whatever gets them there the fastest.

I don't think you're ever going to see them intentionally patch the game to drive players away from dungeons, because however great fates are, none of them are required for new players to complete the main scenario. No matter how 'balanced' you try to make it, that 'whatever' group is always going to be binary and find some statistic or strategy (no matter how insignificant) that takes one path out of any available and makes that THE fastest and only path they'll take.

SE announced from the start that the focus of the game was going to be on instanced content in a theme-park (Yoshi used that term himself) formula, so it really comes as no surprise that, when dungeons were starting to take a hit and Fates were more popular, they'd patch things up to reverse that.

[Sylve]

People do get higher level stuff, but it seems the lowest level dungeons get hit alot. So if you only do a roulette a day, and story/class quests it would be pretty easy to hit 50 and be pretty clueless about rotation and so on.

Of course. I level exclusively with dungeons, pre 2.1 included, specifically so i know as much about my job as i can. Not many others have that desire. But the environment to learn exists if people use it.

[jebali]

People should have choices in the game it is clear by the limit break party nerf and the pvp forced tank healer dps dps make up that they only want you to play the way they chose for us.

They first were all about fates then they nuked fates by making the mobs raid powered, so now people are forced to use duty finder since you can not quest level after the first time.
Leves have limits and do not refill fast enough to use them to level, fates are now overpowered and you can not find more then a group of 5 doing them from level 10-50. Duty finder bonus xp is only for tank or heals and if you get a pop below your level then its wasted que time and no xp from it.

They should take fates back to pre 2.1 and also leave the duty finder bonus but include a higher bonus based on the level of duty that pops. (like if im lvl 30 and get a lvl 10 it scales the bonus x3)
Rasing the leve per day regen use the per day cap as the refill amount as well.

[Parodine]

I don't understand why people aren't doing battle leves and FATE's in between waiting for dungeon queues? I leveled CNJ/WHM almost entirely that way and it was extremely fast. Obviously queues are longer for DPS, but just more time for FATE's. You can practically solo most of non-boss killing ones like 'kill so many of blah' or 'bring these items' blah.

I made a goal to do every dungeon with each class I was leveling at least once, and it's given me a lot of great perspective/skills. No one is asking you to do Sastasha 40,000 times.

[jebali]

I don't understand why people aren't doing battle leves and FATE's in between waiting for dungeon queues.

because they are better to use for crafting, and they do not refill fast. you get like 6 a day I can not remember think its 3 every 12 hours

[Empressia]

Buffing dungeon exp was very welcoming, and I applaud you for that... but why destroy the variety in levelling?

"A FATE's difficulty will now be determined by the number of players who participated in the previous"

This is a stupid change that needs to be reverted... I can't do fates because last time it spawned there was 30 people? now my 10-15 players are gonna die..

3 full-groups couldn't even kill the adds before courl king in South Shroud because each add was taking way too long to kill and were dealing damage equivalent to a boss.

revert your FATE changes to 2.0 please.

3 full groups of undergeared peeps, u sure all of em not wearing any kind of sub ilvl10 gear doin a near ilvl 30 difficulty content?

[Naberrie]

Sadly the duty roulette never makes you play a class above level 18 so this is all moot.

Lately I've gotten Cutter's Cry, AV and Qarn. It's been mixing it up a lot for me lately.

But after I get that first bonus I do my own manual roulette, selecting certain dungeons I've an interest in. Hoping to avoid Garuda as long as possible. I do not want to do that one in a roulette pug.