T2 Enrage problem

[Mhaeric]

Can none of you read? Barely anyone has addressed the issue that this thread is for.

Because it's a non-issue. The situation only presents itself if every group uses the enrage method, and even then all it requires is for someone in your group to switch to healer for one turn. Not necessarily one of the tanks, either.

[MACEenyo]

Because it's a non-issue. The situation only presents itself if every group uses the enrage method, and even then all it requires is for someone in your group to switch to healer for one turn. Not necessarily one of the tanks, either.

95% of Party Finder Turn 2 groups are 1 Tank, 3 Healers, 4 DD. That is a fact. The situation has presented itself I would say.

[LiadansWhisper]

95% of Party Finder Turn 2 groups are 1 Tank, 3 Healers, 4 DD. That is a fact. The situation has presented itself I would say.

Statistics, how do they work?

I can make up numbers, too! 95% of parties using the enrage strat with one tank are requiring a very, very geared tank to take the stacks up high enough and survive! See what I did there? I mean....

I don't know why you would only take one tank. I've always taken two. It makes things a lot easier.

If you don't understand why party finder groups does not equate to all groups, then I don't know how else to help you. There is most definitely not 3 healers clearing turn 2 for every tank.

As for it being a non-issue: Join or form a static. Switch to dps or healer for one turn and join one of those party finder groups. Create your own party finder group set up how you want it to be set up. It's not hard.

I've also seen exceptionally geared groups clear it with 2 healers. But the entire strat is a gear check - if your healers aren't geared enough, or you have undergeared DPS, it doesn't work. Gear should, however, be able to change how you complete an encounter, so I don't really see the issue.

[MACEenyo]

Statistics, how do they work?

I can make up numbers, too! 95% of parties using the enrage strat with one tank are requiring a very, very geared tank to take the stacks up high enough and survive! See what I did there? I mean....

I don't know why you would only take one tank. I've always taken two. It makes things a lot easier.

Hi. There is no tanking once ADS is in Enrage mode. Thanks for sharing.

My argument only applies to Party Finder.

[LiadansWhisper]

Hi. There is no tanking once ADS is in Enrage mode. Thanks for sharing.

My argument only applies to Party Finder.

But there is tanking for all of the nodes you kill prior, as well as for the first 1-2 minutes before he enrages. You're going to pick up 5-6 stacks before then, and if your tank isn't exceptionally geared, your healers absolute gods, or really, really lucky, he's probably going to die if ADS decides to do one of his awesome cheap double-hits. And then with ADS zooming around the room murdering people, even if he goes into enrage right then, it's quite likely that people are going to die trying to get to the stack point (since they tend to scatter as he zoomes around on a murder spree).

Also, you're ignoring the main gist of my point in response to you: You have absolutely no way of knowing the actual statistics of party comp being put together in the party finder. What's more, it is none of your business if groups choose to take one tank, two tanks, or 8 tanks. Just like it is none of your business if groups choose to take one WHM and one SCH, or 4 WHM and 3 SCH. If it were your business, you'd have access to the internal information that would provide accurate statistics on the subject, instead of numbers you just pulled out of your backside.

[MACEenyo]

Also, you're ignoring the main gist of my point in response to you: You have absolutely no way of knowing the actual statistics of party comp being put together in the party finder. What's more, it is none of your business if groups choose to take one tank, two tanks, or 8 tanks. Just like it is none of your business if groups choose to take one WHM and one SCH, or 4 WHM and 3 SCH. If it were your business, you'd have access to the internal information that would provide accurate statistics on the subject, instead of numbers you just pulled out of your backside.

It's not hard to open up Party Finder and see that most all Turn 2 parties are using this method. I would have said 100% but I understand that probably 5% still do it the right way.

[Mhaeric]

95% of Party Finder Turn 2 groups are 1 Tank, 3 Healers, 4 DD. That is a fact. The situation has presented itself I would say.

If you don't understand why party finder groups does not equate to all groups, then I don't know how else to help you. There is most definitely not 3 healers clearing turn 2 for every tank.

As for it being a non-issue: Join or form a static. Switch to dps or healer for one turn and join one of those party finder groups. Create your own party finder group set up how you want it to be set up. It's not hard.

[MACEenyo]

If you don't understand why party finder groups does not equate to all groups,

If you read my OP you would know that I am not talking about premade/static parties.

[Noahlimits]

If you read my OP you would know that I am not talking about premade/static parties.

Then this isn't a problem. If you aren't using a pre-made or static party, start doing so if you don't like it.