T2 Enrage problem

[Mhaeric]

95% of Party Finder Turn 2 groups are 1 Tank, 3 Healers, 4 DD. That is a fact. The situation has presented itself I would say.

If you don't understand why party finder groups does not equate to all groups, then I don't know how else to help you. There is most definitely not 3 healers clearing turn 2 for every tank.

As for it being a non-issue: Join or form a static. Switch to dps or healer for one turn and join one of those party finder groups. Create your own party finder group set up how you want it to be set up. It's not hard.

[MACEenyo]

If you don't understand why party finder groups does not equate to all groups,

If you read my OP you would know that I am not talking about premade/static parties.

[LoLo]

First of I just want to say I don't have any experience in Turn 2. I just started doing Coil last week and have cleared Turn 1.

The problem with Turn 2 Enrage method is that: for every 8 DD, 6 Healers clearing T2, there are only 2 Tanks clearing it. 1:4, 1:3, 1:7

50% of tanks that usually have a party slot don't have one anymore because of this method. Assuming you aren't in a static party.

This reason alone is why it should be fixed. Make it require two tanks. I could care less about being the only tank in the party and being able to not have any loot competition. I'd rather be able to progress.

Does anyone agree?

Level a DD or Healing job.

[MACEenyo]

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Also, yes it is my business. I play a PLD as my main class. My argument is for all the people that use PF exclusively to do content in this game. As it stands now, in Party Finder, for every 40 Tanks that clear Turn 2, 120 Healers are clearing it. That is a 1:3 ratio. There are not going to be enough Healers to heal the remaining tanks at the end of the day. THATS ALL I AM SAYING. If you are in a static, great. That has nothing to do with the issue I am addressing.

Also, I have almost every class leveled. So if your suggestion/solution is to level an alt well, sure it may work for people to get some experience. (As I did last night, I cleared Turn 2 with my il.64 WHM, I didn't get to loot the tank gear btw) It is however not a solution.

[TeaTimeBear]

Why can't you just make your own party then if you feel so sternly about this?

[MACEenyo]

Why can't you just make your own party then if you feel so sternly about this?

Try to understand please. What you just said is PRECISELY the problem. Every tank and his grandma is starting their own T2 Enrage party. Therefore, since Coil has a lock on it(once you clear you can not clear a 2nd time), THERE IS GOING TO INEVITABLY be a Healer shortage. This is my argument.

[LiadansWhisper]

Try to understand please. What you just said is PRECISELY the problem. Every tank and his grandma is starting their own T2 Enrage party. Therefore, since Coil has a lock on it(once you clear you can not clear a 2nd time), THERE IS GOING TO INEVITABLY be a Healer shortage. This is my argument.

And your point is? No one is obligated to raid with you. No one is obligated to raid with you or anyone else. If this is a problem for you, make your own bloody group.

[LiadansWhisper]

It's not hard to open up Party Finder and see that most all Turn 2 parties are using this method. I would have said 100% but I understand that probably 5% still do it the right way.

And you're on the party finder on my realm, and everyone else's realms, too?

Wait...wait, you're not? Oh, okay. So in other words, you are looking at the party finder on your realm at specific times and deciding that this is how it is 100% of the time - not only on your realm, but on all realms.

What are statistics and how do they work?

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Also, yes it is my business. I play a PLD as my main class. My argument is for all the people that use PF exclusively to do content in this game. As it stands now, in Party Finder, for every 40 Tanks that clear Turn 2, 120 Healers are clearing it. That is a 1:3 ratio. There are not going to be enough Healers to heal the remaining tanks at the end of the day. THATS ALL I AM SAYING. If you are in a static, great. That has nothing to do with the issue I am addressing.

It's still not your business. It is still not your business if another party chooses not to take you. No one is obligated to take you to Coil - or anywhere else. If you can't get into a party finder group, make your own. Stop complaining on the forums and go out and do for yourself. There wasn't room for me in my FC's static, so you know what I did? I went out and got my own static. I didn't go to party finder and demand that people take me (granted, we didn't have party finder at the time, but I still would not have done it). I didn't post threads on the forums complaining that some people were playing in a way I didn't like and thus I wasn't able to raid with them (why you would want to raid with people who play in a way you don't like is beyond me). I went out, and I did for myself.

Go out, and do for yourself instead of worrying about what everyone else is doing, and complaining that people won't take you to bloody Coils.

Also, I have almost every class leveled. So if your suggestion/solution is to level an alt well, sure it may work for people to get some experience. (As I did last night, I cleared Turn 2 with my il.64 WHM, I didn't get to loot the tank gear btw) It is however not a solution.

Then you were running with jerks, dude. Stop running with jerks and your problems will be solved.

Why can't you just make your own party then if you feel so sternly about this?

Exaaaaaaactly.

[MACEenyo]

Go out, and do for yourself instead of worrying about what everyone else is doing, and complaining that people won't take you to bloody Coils.

I am not complaining that people will not "take me to bloody coils". I am not complaining at all. I am trying to make other people see the argument I am making. Its called debate.

Also, You have a reading comprehension problem. Please stop posting in the thread I created. Thanks.