Has SE Addressed Stat Allocation on ACN Yet?

[synaesthetic]

Kinda renders the whole "armory system" ideal pointless, though, doesn't it? This game is so relentlessly alt-unfriendly that I do not see any reason why this should be done, and certainly not forcing respecs to cost 10k seals.

Just remove attribute allocation entirely. It's pointless, there's no real choice or flexibility in the system and it only gives the illusion that we have some kind of input in our character's build. We don't. We have no input whatsoever. There are no talents to pick, the gear is all "higher numbers" without sidegrades/situational/spec-related pieces. There's zero opportunity for customization and personal playstyles in FFXIV, so why bother with this pointless attribute allocation stuff?

[Mailstrum]

Kinda renders the whole "armory system" ideal pointless, though, doesn't it? This game is so relentlessly alt-unfriendly that I do not see any reason why this should be done, and certainly not forcing respecs to cost 10k seals.

Just remove attribute allocation entirely. It's pointless, there's no real choice or flexibility in the system and it only gives the illusion that we have some kind of input in our character's build. We don't. We have no input whatsoever. There are no talents to pick, the gear is all "higher numbers" without sidegrades/situational/spec-related pieces. There's zero opportunity for customization and personal playstyles in FFXIV, so why bother with this pointless attribute allocation stuff?

i constantly switch between STR PLD for pvp and ViT PLD For PVE. 10k seals are not that hard to come by.

[Ildur]

i constantly switch between STR PLD for pvp and ViT PLD For PVE. 10k seals are not that hard to come by.

That only makes the Stat issue more evident: you aren't changing your stats because you have a hard tactical choice. You are changing them because you are changing your focus from PvE to PvP. It's akin to wearing heavy clothes when its winter and light clothes when its summer. The only choice given is: "Do you want to be bad at this or not?"
And that, sir, is not really a choice.

Why is this game "alt-unfriendly" ? There is absolutely nothing preventing you to level up some alts. Nothing.

This is like saying: "Why are deserts unfriendly to humans? There is absolutely nothing preventing you from travelling through it. Nothing!" Which is, sadly, to miss the point.

This game is alt-unfriendly because its systems were not made to benefit alts. They are allowed to exist, yes. The same way you can build a house in the dessert. But getting water and food to that house in the dessert is going to be quite problematic compared to, say, staying in your house in the forest.
We can start for the fact that you can't send gear to your alt characters unless you get a friend to do it for you (which is a needless chore) and you can't use mounts until level 20 which, no matter how fast you think levelling an alt to level 20 is, it will always be much slower than having your chocobo available since level 1 like your main character probably can. What's more: the more alts you have, the more time you have to spend levelling them all to 20 to unlock your mount. Time that, you know, you could be using on that single character to get to certain class levels faster.
And if you don't want the mounts you still have to level them up to 15 to unlock airship travel and dyes. The first you'll need to move your alt around and the second you'll need unless you want to look like an idiot with yellow pants, a green shirt and blue kitchen mitts.

[Sylari]

This game is alt-unfriendly because its systems were not made to benefit alts. They are allowed to exist, yes. The same way you can build a house in the dessert. But getting water and food to that house in the dessert is going to be quite problematic compared to, say, staying in your house in the forest.
We can start for the fact that you can't send gear to your alt characters unless you get a friend to do it for you (which is a needless chore) and you can't use mounts until level 20 which, no matter how fast you think levelling an alt to level 20 is, it will always be much slower than having your chocobo available since level 1 like your main character probably can. What's more: the more alts you have, the more time you have to spend levelling them all to 20 to unlock your mount. Time that, you know, you could be using on that single character to get to certain class levels faster.
And if you don't want the mounts you still have to level them up to 15 to unlock airship travel and dyes. The first you'll need to move your alt around and the second you'll need unless you want to look like an idiot with yellow pants, a green shirt and blue kitchen mitts.

I'm not quite sure how "new characters have to unlock things" is really much of an argument for a game being especially alt unfriendly, it's pretty much standard fare: You're complaining about building any house at all at that point.

Listing the benefits of leveling a new class on the same character as a penalty for rolling an alt and deliberately omitting the benefits of having alts seems disingenuous too.

[Themis]

Kinda renders the whole "armory system" ideal pointless, though, doesn't it? This game is so relentlessly alt-unfriendly that I do not see any reason why this should be done, and certainly not forcing respecs to cost 10k seals.

This depends entirely on what you think the armoury system is about, doesn't it? Just because you can switch to all classes/jobs on the same character, doesn't mean you should be the very best at every class/job on the same character. Want to be the best on everything? Then you have other slots to make new characters that you can do that with. Whilst FFXIV =/= FFXI, in said game, which the armoury system is based on, you couldn't max out every job even though you could also switch to other ones. The benefit here is that you don't have to level up multiple characters and repeat content, unless you absolutely must/want to to maximise your game play in a given job.

And even in XI, where there was also stat allocation once you hit level 75, there was best places to put your stats. It wasn't pointless to have it, it just let you work out where you wanted your play style to focus into. They also applied to all jobs and not just a single one. This is pretty much always going to be the case where any person wants to max out the best in stats. Otherwise, you have all the choice in the world. The game does not prevent you putting points into STR for your BLM (only your own sense). The overall effect of the stat bonuses is only important in high end content.

With stat allocation between 2 Jobs in XIV, it's about deciding (y'know, actually giving some serious thought to what you want to do) where you want to put those stats. You can either improve a specific Job in a specific way, or you can improve both Jobs in a general way. And not putting INT into your SMN doesn't gimp that job, it just doesn't improve it. Stat points are a bonus not a forced part of the system.

[synaesthetic]

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When you have to choose between multiple totally pointless options and one actually useful option, there might as well be no choice at all.