Has SE Addressed Stat Allocation on ACN Yet?

[ValorSekari]

So I should put 15 on vit/piety if I plan to play both jobs?

[Maku]

Go all VIT. You will notice that many people have melded Accessories to up their VIT for turn 5 on both SMN and SCH. If you just pump those 30points into VIT like I did you can forget about the melded accessories and actually use healer or DPS accessories. ^^ VIT all the way.

[beforethechasm]

Go all VIT. You will notice that many people have melded Accessories to up their VIT for turn 5 on both SMN and SCH. If you just pump those 30points into VIT like I did you can forget about the melded accessories and actually use healer or DPS accessories. ^^ VIT all the way.

Rather than have vitality-melded accessories, what would you suggest if I were to go +30 vitality?

[OmegaNovaios]

Rather than have vitality-melded accessories, what would you suggest if I were to go +30 vitality?

Pets DO NOT benefit from Allocated Vitality, Party Bonus Vitality, Potion Vitality, NOR Food Vitality. The only Vitality Bonus that also benefits Pets is Gear Vitality.

[Maku]

Rather than have vitality-melded accessories, what would you suggest if I were to go +30 vitality?

Pets DO NOT benefit from Allocated Vitality, Party Bonus Vitality, Potion Vitality, NOR Food Vitality. The only Vitality Bonus that also benefits Pets is Gear Vitality.

This is true Omega but when has your Pets HP EVER been an issue? SE made them not take damage from even more AoEs this last patch and they already took hardly any damage from anything. Heck it is common practice to put pets behind Twintania to have a place to run to to disperse FireBall damage. PET HP should never be something that you worry about enough to take VIT on Gear over something else.

What to take instead of VIT acc? Anything that has to do with healer. For SCH full Myth Acc along with the Allagan Ring of Healing is BiS IF you do not need the VIT Acc for the HP which you wont if you put your points into VIT. Not sure for WHM.

For SMN, aside from Tremor Earring and Vortext Ring the rest is Myth Acc again for the current BiS.

[OmegaNovaios]

This is true Omega but when has your Pets HP EVER been an issue? SE made them not take damage from even more AoEs this last patch and they already took hardly any damage from anything. Heck it is common practice to put pets behind Twintania to have a place to run to to disperse FireBall damage. PET HP should never be something that you worry about enough to take VIT on Gear over something else.

What to take instead of VIT acc? Anything that has to do with healer. For SCH full Myth Acc along with the Allagan Ring of Healing is BiS IF you do not need the VIT Acc for the HP which you wont if you put your points into VIT. Not sure for WHM.

For SMN, aside from Tremor Earring and Vortext Ring the rest is Myth Acc again for the current BiS.

Pet's HP should never be an issue, the same as the player's HP should never be an issue. It is far easier to move your own character than to move your pet if either should be dodging attacks. Pet's are more likely to die than the character for this reason, but either way I don't recommend Allocating VIT neither for yourself nor your pet even if Allocated VIT did count for the pet unless you really wanted to have Titan-Egi tank. I wouldn't trade 30 INT/PIE for 30 VIT directly. The only time you MIGHT need more VIT for PVE is for Twintania's Fireball. If this is the case then it's fine to Allocate VIT UNTIL you pass the HP threshold you need in gear.

If you want more VIT then it's best to meld it to jewelry as opposed to using Allocated VIT since your pet benefits as well. Full i70 crafted can have 45 INT, 45 MND, 45 VIT and 30 PIE. This is a gain of 45 MND, 45 VIT, and 30 PIE at the loss of -20 INT over full i90. More VIT AND less of a loss in INT than Allocating 30 VIT instead of INT and/or PIE.

If your Allocating VIT I don't know what the point in going for BiS is when you care about HP so much yet pushing for DPS everywhere else. If you value HP the most then get HP in both Allocation and Gear. Doing only Allocation is the worst case scenario IMO.

If you you want BiS IMO full i70 crafted is better for SMN for the gains in PIE (able to sustain full DPS for longer and conserve more Aethers for bursting mechanics (which is going to secure more wins than +5% dps in unhindered environments)) and extra secondary stats which is better than 20 INT overall. A SMN will never have any issues in a non-hindered environment no matter whether he has BiS or not so it's best to gear for when it does. But if you want to stick to the non-crafted gear for BiS for your DPS then Allocating VIT seems silly since this will lower your DPS potential for PVE. For PVP then maybe Allocating VIT is good but again if you value HP then get it in every place you can.

[ziDvna]

I tried doing this non-mind stat build.. but isnt it 870-905 healing compared to 925-960 with full mind is a bit low for coil specially for t5? or with 30 pie spamming cure will not be a problem? havent tried it using in dungeons but.... :O

[arkived]

I tried doing this non-mind stat build.. but isnt it 870-905 healing compared to 925-960 with full mind is a bit low for coil specially for t5? or with 30 pie spamming cure will not be a problem? havent tried it using in dungeons but.... :O

I am curious about this as well

[Exstal]

There is no issue with stat allocation. It's the trade off for using two jobs from one class. Square Enix should have made you level them both separately but still branch from Arcanist. You level "SMN" to 50 but your SCH is still at L30 unless you put effort into it. Since that's not that case, you have to deal with it.

As for actually allocating stats..putting points into anything other than your main stat is a question in utility. Personally, I've never even remotely considered using VIT stack as a non-tank, PIE stack as anything, or splitting stats between SCH / SMN. Leveling another character altogether if you want to play both religiously since you've circumvented having to level two jobs by just leveling one class.

[Karnage720]

I'm just not going to play SMN anymore for anything serious. All in all, you are gimping yourself by not doing 30 INT. If not, go tell a MNK or DRG to go full VIT and see what they say. /thread